Re: Inline frames, die, die, die (aka please help!)

From: Murray (forums_at_HAHAgreat-web-sights.com)
Date: 02/13/05


Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2005 14:45:19 -0500

Yepperee. IFrames have all of the same annoying problems as do frames.

-- 
Murray
"Thomas A. Rowe" <tarowe@mvps.org> wrote in message 
news:uYbU5NgEFHA.2300@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> In order to include a PHP file in another page, the other page must be a 
> .php page as well. This applies to all server-side scripting languages, 
> such as ASP, an ASP page can not be included in .htm(l) page.
>
> Another solution is just have these pages open in new browser window.
>
> Even if you found a solution to your issue, you are still making it 
> impossible for users to link directly to the content of the item loaded in 
> the IFrame, plus if you site is indexed by the search engines, the links 
> will go directly to the IFrame content, not your page with IFrame.
>
> As far a the scrollbar, if it is associated with the IFrame, then it will 
> appear with the IFrame, if it is associated with the page, it will display 
> for the page, this is how HTML works.
>
> Most things we do on the web has tradeoffs or limitations that we have to 
> live with when want to do certain things, an frames is one of them.
>
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> "Stefan" <Stefan@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message 
> news:621DEBA3-BC32-40C6-9C45-DB7D7D9A6D93@microsoft.com...
>> This seemingly simple problem continues to drive me round the bend... 
>> Sorry
>> for the verbose note:
>>
>> In my site (www.aaltenvoogd.com) I have included a discussion forum, 
>> blog,
>> chat and picture gallery by using inline frames. I'm aware they are a Bad
>> Thing. They cause (predictably...) problems in not resizing* how I want 
>> them
>> to and scrollbars appearing where I don't want them. I have tried to make 
>> the
>> best of a bad deal but it is not satisfactory. Also, I don't want the
>> forum/blog/etc. to overtake the entire window but to be contained in the
>> space I have allocated for it. For example, after logging in on the Forum 
>> it
>> opens in the whole window, leaving the user with no navigation to the 
>> rest of
>> my site.
>>
>> What I would like to achieve, for each of these four sections of my site, 
>> is
>> to display them on a single page which uses my site design (little 
>> flashmovie
>> top left, global menu at the top, etc.) and has the content in the main
>> panel. If scrollbars are required then I would like these to appear in 
>> the
>> browser window, NOT in the frame inside the browser window.
>>
>> I have explored the use of include pages and server side includes but 
>> these
>> don't achieve the desired effect either. The forum and picture gallery 
>> are
>> PHP files and "including" a PHP file does not have any effect at all 
>> (even
>> though my local system and my web host both have PHP correctly installed 
>> and
>> running) - you just get a blank page where the php should appear. The 
>> blog
>> points to my blog on a separate site.
>>
>> I have posted questions about this here before and have had some help or
>> pointers but all to no avail unfortunately.
>>
>> Using FrontPage 2003 and Dynamic Web Templates.
>>
>> I would be very grateful for any help on this one!
>>
>> Many thanks,
>> Stefan
>>
>> * Frame resizing: width is set at 100% and horizontal resizing behaviour 
>> is
>> correct, but setting height to 100% the frame does not resize how it 
>> should
>> and I have therefore had to retain a fixed height.
>
> 


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