Re: CSS?
From: Murray (forums_at_HAHAgreat-web-sights.com)
Date: 01/24/05
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Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 11:10:05 -0500
The time and effort involved in learning CSS (even CSS 101) will be amply
rewarded in pages that continue to look right on all browsers, and that load
faster than their corresponding HTML styled pages. There's not a good
argument for not expending that time and effort, in my opinion.
-- Murray "Thomas A. Rowe" <tarowe@mvps.org> wrote in message news:OeZ%23jyiAFHA.3940@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... > And you can allow for font size changes. > > -- > ============================================== > Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage) > WEBMASTER Resources(tm) > http://www.ycoln-resources.com > FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc. > ============================================== > To assist you in getting the best answers for FrontPage support see: > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp > > "Murray" <forums@HAHAgreat-web-sights.com> wrote in message > news:ePBI6siAFHA.2428@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl... >>> Without using CSS (which I feel requires more time and effort), it is >>> very easy to design a site that look "basically" the same in all >>> graphical browsers and it doesn't take any extra effort to do so. >> >> "Basically" is subjective. If you use points for your text size, you >> will see a rendering difference between browsers. >> >> -- >> Murray >> >> "Thomas A. Rowe" <tarowe@mvps.org> wrote in message >> news:O0dG6TbAFHA.3860@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl... >>> Without using CSS (which I feel requires more time and effort), it is >>> very easy to design a site that look "basically" the same in all >>> graphical browsers and it doesn't take any extra effort to do so. >>> >>> Stats for one of my client sites show IE2 and up and NS2 and up. I don't >>> care what the number of users are using these browser or % of the total >>> visitors they are, just that these users are seeing the site, basically >>> same as any other users. >>> >>> -- >>> ============================================== >>> Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage) >>> WEBMASTER Resources(tm) >>> http://www.ycoln-resources.com >>> FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc. >>> ============================================== >>> To assist you in getting the best answers for FrontPage support see: >>> http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp >>> >>> "Murray" <forums@HAHAgreat-web-sights.com> wrote in message >>> news:%23Ze8ZIbAFHA.3744@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl... >>>> Let's be clear - >>>> >>>> CSS CAN cause problems in NN4x. It works pretty well in all other v4+ >>>> browsers (except IE4/PC and Mac - but nobody uses them anyhow). >>>> >>>> If you are going to use CSS, and you want to support NN4x, then you >>>> must check your pages in that browser. Frankly, I have stopped >>>> worrying about it to the extent that I code my pages so that NN4x users >>>> get a functional site, but not one that looks like what you would see >>>> in IE/FF/Safari. That's easy enough to do.... >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Murray >>>> >>>> "Susan" <dsnsacree@msn.com> wrote in message >>>> news:%23JWEQWaAFHA.3664@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl... >>>>> Thanks, I knew you had your reasons! I read that CSS may cause >>>>> problems with older browsers, so I assumed you must be trying to >>>>> accomodate most everyone. >>>>> >>>>> Susan >>>>> "Thomas A. Rowe" <tarowe@mvps.org> wrote in message >>>>> news:%23xLpgpWAFHA.1564@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... >>>>>>W E B GU R L >>>>>> >>>>>> I guess that I am crazy, because I can make a single change and have >>>>>> it apply to all pages via ASP/VBScript. >>>>>> >>>>>> I can control colors, images, fonts, table/cell widths and heights, >>>>>> content includes, etc., basically any HTML element via ASP/VBScript. >>>>>> I do this either from a single page in the site or from a database >>>>>> without having a need to use CSS for other then what I have mentioned >>>>>> in my post. >>>>>> >>>>>> A Basic Example/Demo: >>>>>> http://www.ecom-data.com/Examples/Seasons/default.asp >>>>>> >>>>>> Click on each of the 4 seasons at the top of the example/demo. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> ============================================== >>>>>> Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage) >>>>>> WEBMASTER Resources(tm) >>>>>> http://www.ycoln-resources.com >>>>>> FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc. >>>>>> ============================================== >>>>>> To assist you in getting the best answers for FrontPage support see: >>>>>> http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp >>>>>> >>>>>> "W E B GU R L" <nospam@thanks.com> wrote in message >>>>>> news:%23hhaJEUAFHA.2712@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl... >>>>>>> Anyone not using CSS is crazy! Same as templates and if FP has them >>>>>>> like DW, library >>>>>>> items. Life is so much easier when you change make change to only >>>>>>> one thing instead of >>>>>>> EVERY page. Now that just does not make sense to me! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> http://hostspace.com.au >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Thomas A. Rowe" <tarowe@mvps.org> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:Owa2EpPAFHA.612@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... >>>>>>> I only use CSS for: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 1. removing the underline from hyperlinks >>>>>>> 2. set the link hover color >>>>>>> 3. Creating page breaks in long documents for printing. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Other than the above, I personally have not found any good reasons >>>>>>> for me to use CSS. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> ============================================== >>>>>>> Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage) >>>>>>> WEBMASTER Resources(tm) >>>>>>> http://www.ycoln-resources.com >>>>>>> FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc. >>>>>>> ============================================== >>>>>>> To assist you in getting the best answers for FrontPage support see: >>>>>>> http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Susan" <dsnsacree@msn.com> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:ufkfNbPAFHA.2196@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>> Do you generally use CSS for websites? When would you use the >>>>>>>> formating toolbar--to >>>>>>> override CSS? >>>>>>>> "Thomas A. Rowe" <tarowe@mvps.org> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:u5Q$OPKAFHA.1908@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>>> Select all of the text on the page, then Format Menu | Remove >>>>>>>>> Formatting >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> ============================================== >>>>>>>>> Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage) >>>>>>>>> WEBMASTER Resources(tm) >>>>>>>>> http://www.ycoln-resources.com >>>>>>>>> FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc. >>>>>>>>> ============================================== >>>>>>>>> To assist you in getting the best answers for FrontPage support >>>>>>>>> see: >>>>>>>>> http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "Susan" <dsnsacree@msn.com> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:ONOw0%23JAFHA.2112@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>>>> Is there easy way to convert website to use CSS? There are >>>>>>>>>> several <font> tags in >>>>>>> pages. Do I >>>>>>>>>> need to manually delete them with find and replace? I am tired of >>>>>>>>>> size and font-face >>>>>>> being >>>>>>>>>> specified numerous times on pages. I want to get consistency in >>>>>>>>>> website. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks for info. >>>>>>>>>> Susan >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > >
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