Re: FrontPage and Windows Server 2003 Small Business Server

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From: Jeff Teel (jdteel_at_sugardog.com)
Date: 01/18/05 

Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 19:30:33 -0500

It does appear to be raising it's ugly head for sure!! I'm not going to give
up easily though. There has to be an answer for this. Hopefully I will find
that it is something easy to fix.
Thank you again for your suggestions. I have contacted my web host and asked
what authentication was being used. I asked if it was the same for both web
sites but they haven't responded to that question. They just asked if I
wanted it changed. It was set for Integrated Windows authentication. I do
know that the two sites reside on different servers so there could be a
difference in how they are set up for authentication. I also know that the
problem site is not actually on the server that my domain name is pointing
to. They moved it to another server at one point because of a problem and
did the routing internally.
Thanks Again
Jeff

"Ronx" <ronx917@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ukiLHnO$EHA.1600@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>I know very little about Windows 2003 or SBS, and nothing about ISA, so I
>am not the person to continue this with. Old posts (many months ago) in
>these FrontPage groups suggest that ISA is a fickle beast, in that some
>users have no problems and others have to turn it off to enable FrontPage
>
> The authorisation method is a setting in the IIS property sheets, so it
> will be the host that makes the change.
>
> --
> Ron Symonds (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
> Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
>
>
> "Jeff Teel" <jdteel@sugardog.com> wrote in message
> news:elwb$tN$EHA.208@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>> Hi Ron
>>
>> I have posted on the Microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs and have
>> communicated with Jim Behning about my problem. He suggested setting up
>> one workstation as a secure NAT client and giving that a try. I followed
>> his instructions but haven't had any luck getting things to work with the
>> problem site. I guess the bright side is it didn't affect the site that I
>> have been able to publish to! Am I correct in thinking that the Web Host
>> will have to make that change? I don't believe that I've seen anything
>> like that in the FrontPage server extension Administration pages.
>>
>> I don't know if you are the person to ask but I'll ask anyway. Would it
>> be better for me to ask my web host to change the authorization (if that
>> turns out to be what is causing this) or should I tinker with my network
>> to make things work. I am using ISA 2000 that came with my SBS system and
>> there may be something in there that is causing this behavior. I am still
>> green with Window Server and ISA as well but the SBS news group has been
>> a great help......along with your assistance.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Jeff
>>
>> "Ronx" <ronx917@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:ui6%23fuM$EHA.3236@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>>> Note that ASP pages do not use the FrontPage extensions.
>>> Your site does have working extensions, I was asked to login when
>>> editing with FrontPage.
>>>
>>> The differences between the authorisation of one site (that works with
>>> FP) to another could be that one uses Basic authorisation, and the other
>>> requires Integrated Windows authorisation, which may be blocked by the
>>> SBS. This authorisation method can be set on individual IIS virtual
>>> servers.
>>>
>>> Or the SBS firewall might need tweaking.
>>>
>>> I suggest posting to one of the windows.server or windows.server.sbs
>>> groups.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Ron Symonds (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
>>> Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
>>>
>>>
>>> "Jeff Teel" <jdteel@sugardog.com> wrote in message
>>> news:OwSppUL$EHA.3120@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>>>> Hi Ron.....
>>>> Thanks for your response. Here is the URL of the problem web site:
>>>> http://teelcountry.com I'm thinking that the extensions are OK because
>>>> I have some .asp pages (they are form pages that gather data to post in
>>>> a database) that load and I'm able to Open the FrontPage Server
>>>> extension administrator pages..(I have them bookmarked in my browser.)
>>>> At times even the FP extension pages seem like they don't respond to
>>>> requests like they did when my LAN was Per to Per. If I bypass the
>>>> Windows Server and connect directly to my router things work fine. I
>>>> can open the live copy of the web with FrontPage and I can push a local
>>>> copy of a fie to the web server OK. With those symptoms it would point
>>>> directly to the Windows Small Business Server but I manage another
>>>> FrontPage web site that is hosted by the same company and I can connect
>>>> to it just fine (the same way I'm trying to do with the teelcountry.com
>>>> web). I've been gleaning the web for any answers that I can find and it
>>>> seems like an unusual problem since it is not consistent as far as just
>>>> not working at all, be it through the Small Business Server or
>>>> bypassing the SBS and dialing in!! But hopefully we can find something
>>>> to get this resolved. If you question anything else let me know. I've
>>>> typed so many things in user groups that I can't remember what I've
>>>> said where.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Jeff
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Ronx" <ronx917@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:e1Sy$VI$EHA.1084@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Just because you can see the pages does not mean the extensions are
>>>>> running. FP extensions only come into play when some server side
>>>>> activity is required - form processing, hit counter, publishing,
>>>>> opening a web in FrontPage, etc. - displaying a page does not require
>>>>> the extensions unless it contains an active, browsetime component.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you give a URL to the web, it can be checked to see if the
>>>>> extensions are installed, and if the problem with logging on is
>>>>> limited to you or your network.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Ron Symonds (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
>>>>> Reply only to group - emails will be deleted unread.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Jeff Teel" <jdteel@sugardog.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:%23i78C5D$EHA.2076@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>I have am trying to update a FrontPage Extended web that is outside of
>>>>>>my local Windows 2003 network. The extensions on the web seem to be
>>>>>>working OK because the pages display correctly and when viewing the
>>>>>>different subwebs they all work fine. I am just not able to update
>>>>>>this web with files from my local copy or I can't setup a web folder
>>>>>>in My Network Places using the wizard because I never get a logon
>>>>>>screen. I'm using XP Pro as an OS, FrontPage 2003 for a web editor.
>>>>>>Has anyone had any problems like this?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>> Jeff
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

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