Re: Using applets
From: Thomas A. Rowe (tarowe_at_mvps.org)
Date: 12/26/04
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Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2004 15:02:37 -0500
George,
Sorry, but you are wrong.
First, MS agreed to no longer distribute the MS JVM under an agreement reach with Sun Microsystems,
but will continue to support current users of the MS JVM until December 2007.
http://www.microsoft.com/mscorp/java/
Second, see the following URL regarding distribution:
http://www.microsoft.com/permission/copyrgt/cop-soft.htm#Java
Third, the MS JVM is the copyright property of Microsoft Corporation (view properties of the
MSJAVA.dll). In the USA, the length of copyright is the life of the author, plus 70 years.
http://www.legal-database.com/copyright-length.htm
Additional info:
http://www.microsoft.com/mscorp/java/faq.asp
-- ============================================== Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage) WEBMASTER Resources(tm) http://www.ycoln-resources.com FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc. ============================================== To assist you in getting the best answers for FrontPage support see: http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp "George Hester" <hesterloli@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:%23u1Mur36EHA.4028@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl... I would search for where you are correct. You are not so that would be futile. Microsoft has agreed to no longer have claims on this application. It is as simple as that. Therefore no claims; no ownership. They have had the courts force them into this position. I didn't do it. "Just because MS no longer distribute or supports an application or component, does not give any one the right to distribute it." - Thomas they no longer have any rights to it. That includes the right to say what can be done with it. Think about it. -- George Hester _________________________________ "Thomas A. Rowe" <tarowe@mvps.org> wrote in message news:#QAfJbX6EHA.2452@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl... > George, > > Just because MS no longer distribute or supports an application or component, does not give any > one > the right to distribute it. It is still the copyrighted property of Microsoft Corporation > > So you think it would be ok, to distribute older versions of Office that are no longer supported? > If > no, then why do you think it would be different for the MS JVM? > > Since you think it is ok, I will let you search the MS site for proof that I am incorrect. > > -- > ============================================== > Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage) > WEBMASTER Resources(tm) > http://www.ycoln-resources.com > FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc. > ============================================== > To assist you in getting the best answers for FrontPage support see: > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp > > "George Hester" <hesterloli@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:eVEY$TW6EHA.3820@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl... > Thomas I don't think your description "illegal" is accurate. It is no longer supported, yes. It > is > no longer developed, yes. Is it illegal to "download" the Microsoft VM for Windows XP? I doubt > it. > If you know otherwise please post the appropriate Microsoft article in this regard. As far as I > know Microsoft has agreed to no longer devote any more attention to it. That implies it is no > longer under their control and the fact that they no longer have it available as a download in no > way imples they still have jurisdiction over it. In fact that is a contradiction. > > -- > George Hester > _________________________________ > "Thomas A. Rowe" <tarowe@mvps.org> wrote in message news:OjeYtuV6EHA.1264@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... > > Legally it is not available, since it has been removed from the MS website. > > > > -- > > ============================================== > > Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage) > > WEBMASTER Resources(tm) > > http://www.ycoln-resources.com > > FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc. > > ============================================== > > To assist you in getting the best answers for FrontPage support see: > > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp > > > > "George Hester" <hesterloli@hotmail.com> wrote in message > > news:O$CZedV6EHA.3236@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl... > > I provided the link to show what Microsoft is currently saying about its JVM. It is not the > > article > > which refers to > > the actual "download" of the Microsoft JVM for Windows XP. It does exist. I don't know if > > Microsoft has > > removed all the information on that. I suspect they have. > > > > http://www.softwarepatch.com/windows/javavm.html > > > > -- > > George Hester > > _________________________________ > > "Thomas A. Rowe" <tarowe@mvps.org> wrote in message > > news:OcupXIT6EHA.1120@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl... > > > Not everyone has access to DSL, Cable or Satellite service > > > > > > The MS KB states that the provided link, will not install the MS JVM, it will update the MS > > > JVM > > > if > > > already installed on the PC. > > > -- > > > > > > ============================================== > > > Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage) > > > WEBMASTER Resources(tm) > > > http://www.ycoln-resources.com > > > FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc. > > > ============================================== > > > To assist you in getting the best answers for FrontPage support see: > > > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp > > > > > > "George Hester" <hesterloli@hotmail.com> wrote in message > > > news:uy%23WBjS6EHA.1392@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl... > > > There is nothing wrong with Applets. They are nice. Size is really not a concern unless they > > > are > > > BIG. Mine is 43KB. If they are dial-up then what they get they expect. Yes they need the > > > JVM. > > > Point them to the manual download do not set the applet to install the JVM on demand. That is > > > rude. > > > > > > Applets do NOT work in FrontPage. They work over http when the applet is viewed in a browser > > > embedded in a web page (.htm). > > > > > > If you have troubles viewing the applet over the web that is served from your machine then you > > > just > > > need to make sure the files are where expected (error would be nice if not) and you have Sun's > > > or > > > Microsoft's JVM installed. There is a Microsoft JVM for Windows XP: > > > > > > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;163637 > > > > > > -- > > > George Hester > > > _________________________________ > > > "Martin J" <anonmous@nospam.com> wrote in message > > > news:BD97DF4A-433A-4A78-8EC6-1401031363FC@microsoft.com... > > > > I'm quite new to web site design. I found a free java applet on the web that > > > > i'd like to use. I downloaded the web page and .jar file and graphic file and > > > > put them in my current web site folder on my local computer. Then tried to > > > > open the same exact web page I saw on the web site in frontpage 2000 the > > > > applet doesn't seem to work. I get a grey screen where the jpeg should be. > > > > All files are in the same directory. his directions were -> Put > > > > "somefile.jar" file in same directory where is your "html" file. Any help > > > > would be greatly appreciated. > > > > Thanks > > > > Martin J > > > > > > > > > > > >
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