Re: Long load times using Front page

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From: Steve Molander (steve_at_stevemolander.com)
Date: 10/05/04


Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2004 18:18:26 -0500

Thanks! I'll give that suggestion a try. Yes, both workstations are
running XP Pro.

Also ... you explained the problems with ftp'ing well. I understand ....
but this may be a novice question, but when you refer to http:// for file
transfer ... what exactly is that procedure or what are you using? I've
always moved files by either using ftp or copy and past into FP folder
structure. If there's a better way, then I'm all for it!

Thanks

-- 
Steve Molander
"Steve Easton" <admin@95isalive.com> wrote in message 
news:O3jyYsyqEHA.2588@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Ok.
> The problem with publishing via ftp is that when you select FTP, FrontPage 
> "assumes" there are no
> extensions on the server and therefore "may not" publish any / all files 
> associated with features
> that require extensions.
> I also have ftp'd to an extended server, but I *very seldom* do, because 
> imho it is much slower than
> publishing via http://
> ( at least it is on my 2K Pro FP 2003 machine over a DSL line ( FP2002 
> also, I have them both
> installed ))
>
> Assuming you're running Windows 2000 or XP and also considering that FP 
> uses Internet Explorer
> settings when accessing the WWW try these two things with FP and IE shut 
> down.
> 1.  Right click the IE icon on the desktop, click Properties, click the 
> Programs tab, click the
> "reset web settings" button, in the pop-up uncheck "reset my homepage and 
> then click Ok and OK.
> 2.  Open a command window and type:  ipconfig /flushdns  and press enter.
> ( note there is a space between ipconfig  and   /flushdns )
> When done close the command window, and launch FP and see if there's a 
> difference.
>
> Let us know the results
> -- 
> Steve Easton
> Microsoft MVP FrontPage
> 95isalive
> This site is best viewed............
> .......................with a computer
>
> "Steve Molander" <steve@stevemolander.com> wrote in message
> news:udh1FlxqEHA.1296@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>> Just so I'm clear in my problem or how I use FP.  Under almost every
>> condition I will open my webpage for editing using the method you called 
>> out
>> ... open FP, File, Open, webpage (or I go to my webpage in IE and click 
>> the
>> "edit" icon).
>>
>> I have two websites I administer ... each on a different host.  My 
>> personal
>> webpage is having no problems even though I'm also using shared borders 
>> (top
>> border only with links).
>>
>> I will use WS_FTP Pro if I want to move a large number of files or back 
>> up
>> my webpage quickly (being aware of the hidden "_*" FP folders).  I've 
>> used
>> this method on both sites since I first started building sites.  This has
>> not caused any corruption or problems in the past.  Either I'm living a
>> charmed life or I may have corrupted something this time around?
>>
>> Could I have something corrupted in my file structure at GoDaddy?  Are 
>> there
>> hidden files beyond what I can see through FP or ftp that need attention 
>> by
>> the server admins?
>>
>> BTW ... just opened the website using FP and it took over 3 minutes for a
>> very basic site to open.  www.rayba.org   And no *.web files found on my
>> local drive.
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Steve Molander
>> "Steve Easton" <admin@95isalive.com> wrote in message
>> news:edlGnfxqEHA.2900@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>> > Since you have FrontPage extensions on the server you should *not* use
>> > ftp://
>> >
>> > Close your web and FrontPage.  Delete the *.web file
>> >
>> > Repair the extensions then open FrontPage and then File > Open Web and
>> > enter
>> > http://yourwebsitename.com and open the site that way.  I think you'll
>> > find your "problems" go away.
>> >
>> >
>> > -- 
>> > Steve Easton
>> > Microsoft MVP FrontPage
>> > 95isalive
>> > This site is best viewed............
>> > .......................with a computer
>> >
>> > "Steve Molander" <steve@stevemolander.com> wrote in message
>> > news:%23gqGzbxqEHA.536@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>> >> I've cleared Internet Temps and Temp files on both machines that I 
>> >> use.
>> >> I
>> >> didn't know about the *.web.  I'll try that.  Thanks.
>> >>
>> >> If I open the site directly using ftp, it opens fine.  I can copy and
>> >> paste
>> >> files without any problem.  If I click a page to edit, FP opens and I 
>> >> get
>> >> what's become standard procedure ... body of web opens, shared borders
>> >> are
>> >> there but empty, images begin to show up as placeholder boxes in top
>> >> border,
>> >> wait ... wait ... wait ... then images appear in top border and links
>> >> show
>> >> up in left border.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> -- 
>> >> Steve Molander
>> >> "Steve Easton" <admin@95isalive.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:eKigtRxqEHA.1992@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> >> > How long since you've cleared your temporary internet files, and 
>> >> > also
>> >> > the
>> >> > FrontPage temporary
>> >> > files??
>> >> > The FrontPage ones are cleared with your web open by clicking Tools 
>> >> >  >
>> >> > Web
>> >> > settings and clicking the
>> >> > Advanced Tab and then the delete files button.
>> >> >
>> >> > If no improvement, close FrontPage and do a windows search for files
>> >> > named
>> >> > *.web and delete all
>> >> > found.
>> >> >
>> >> > Then see if there's a difference.
>> >> >
>> >> > However, you mentioned you're using FP over ftp on an extended 
>> >> > server.
>> >> > You should open the site
>> >> > using http://
>> >> >
>> >> > -- 
>> >> > Steve Easton
>> >> > Microsoft MVP FrontPage
>> >> > 95isalive
>> >> > This site is best viewed............
>> >> > .......................with a computer
>> >> >
>> >> > "Steve Molander" <steve@stevemolander.com> wrote in message
>> >> > news:uFQxnMxqEHA.4004@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>> >> >> Been hosting a website with GoDaddy.com for four years.  Have 
>> >> >> always
>> >> >> used
>> >> >> FP
>> >> >> (now using FP2002) over ftp.  No problems until recently.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Now when I open the website through FP, it takes ~ 1 minute to get 
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> log
>> >> >> in form, then ~ another 2 minutes to open the index page and at 
>> >> >> least
>> >> >> another minute or two to open the shared borders (including links).
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Once the page is opened I can edit without any problem.  Saving 
>> >> >> takes
>> >> >> a
>> >> >> bit
>> >> >> longer than I would expect but not to the extent of the opening
>> >> >> sequence.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I've uninstalled and reinstalled server extensions on the server
>> >> >> (using
>> >> >> GoDaddy's services).  I've checked code to see if I have buggered 
>> >> >> code
>> >> >> in
>> >> >> my
>> >> >> header.  I've cleaned up the themes, border and overlay folders to
>> >> >> make
>> >> >> sure
>> >> >> any old styles are completely gone.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Nothing changes.  I'm also posting this to GodDaddy's support page 
>> >> >> but
>> >> >> thought I would come here to see if anyone else has seen problems 
>> >> >> as
>> >> >> this.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> -- 
>> >> >> Steve Molander
>> >> >>
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