Re: Frames & more

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From: Rick Budde (anonymous_at_discussions.microsoft.com)
Date: 09/30/04


Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 13:02:06 -0700

Fred:

Frames or tables is not the most important issue for you.
The fact that the variable data you want displayed on
your site are stored on another site is THE key to your
problem.

When you say "the data is held on another server" is it
similar to the website you gave as an example (ie, it
changes based on some input your visitor might make on
your site ... in the example case, selecting different
destinations causes different information to be displayed
in your #1 and #3 cells)? If so, you probably cannot
avoid programming and you should strongly consider hiring
someone with the skillset required to do this.

I would suggest you also pose your questions/ideas with
the people who generate the data on this other server.

>-----Original Message-----
>On the site you linked, no frames were used. Each press
of the SEARCH
>button triggers a new SQL query into the database, and a
new recordset
>formulation. It's a standard setup.
>
>--
>Murray
>
>"Fred" <fred@finecats.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:%23z$N%23DwpEHA.2696@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>> The data is held on another server and all I need now
is to find a way to
>> instruct my server to collect this information via a
deep link (if that's
>> the right word). I think Rick's idea of the three
tables would work so the
>> only answer I now need is the one on how I can place a
deep link. The full
>> data driven website would be beyond my knowledge base
so I won't even go
>> down that road unless someone knows an idiot proof and
cheap way. Fred
>>
>> "Murray" <forums@HAHAgreat-web-sights.com> wrote in
message
>> news:OVH9Y0vpEHA.4076@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>>> You need to find a better example than that. This
site is completely
>>> data driven, and as far as I can tell the whole page
refreshes with each
>>> click on the search button.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Murray
>>>
>>> "Fred" <fred@finecats.co.uk> wrote in message
>>> news:%23F%23M6svpEHA.3324@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>>>> Hi Murray & Rick,
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for trying a help a newbie. I think it may
be better if I show
>>>> you a site that seems to do what I want, albeit on
a different subject
>>>> matter. Please take a look at
>>>> http://aberdeen-gran-canaria.bargain-holiday-
break.co.uk/pages/airports_destinations/departure/scotland
>>>>
>>>> and you will get an idea of what I'm trying to
achieve. On the site the
>>>> text changes in the top box i.e. the name of the
airport, but the rest
>>>> of the text and search box and the bottom of the
page (starting with the
>>>> map) remain constant. The middle part (frame 3 in my
first posting) is
>>>> obviously different on every page and is changed
daily. It was this part
>>>> of the puzzle that I'm totally ignorant on and would
love to hear from
>>>> anyone on how I could achieve the same thing.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for your advice so far. Fred
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Rick Budde" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com>
wrote in message
>>>> news:458201c4a6f5$3d5d0080$a501280a@phx.gbl...
>>>>> Based on your specs, I would suggest that you use
tables
>>>>> and include pages instead of frames.
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. Create a blank template page that contains a 2
column
>>>>> X 3 row table that is the basic layout for your
website.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. In the area that is to contain your content (#3
by
>>>>> your terminology), combine the two cells of the
table
>>>>> into one. Same for the bottom two cells (#4 by your
>>>>> terminology).
>>>>>
>>>>> 3. Size the cells of the table so that they can
>>>>> accomodate their targeted content.
>>>>>
>>>>> 4. Create two separate pages for the unchangable
content
>>>>> of #2 and #4. Input that content into those pages.
>>>>>
>>>>> 5. Go back to the page created in step 1 above and
insert
>>>>> Include Page components into cells #2 and #4. The
pages
>>>>> to include will be those created in step 4 above.
>>>>>
>>>>> You now have a blank template upon which to base
your
>>>>> website. Once you haved saved it, do a File | Save
As as
>>>>> many times as you need to create pages for your
website
>>>>> (obvioulsy using different file names each time you
Save
>>>>> As). This way your blank template will remain in
case you
>>>>> need to add pages to your site.
>>>>>
>>>>> In each of these newly created pages, input the
changable
>>>>> content in your cells #1 and #3. Tie these pages
together
>>>>> with hyperlinks, publish to your host and you are
ready
>>>>> for prime time.
>>>>>
>>>>> I hope this helps.
>>>>>
>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>Why do you need to use something as troublesome and
>>>>> problematic as frames?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>--
>>>>>>Murray
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Fred" <fred@finecats.co.uk> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:OcTdLntpEHA.3252@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> BlankI've never used frames before but now need
to do
>>>>> so. I need a page
>>>>>>> with four frames - the banner (top border) split
into
>>>>> two frames - frame 1
>>>>>>> & 2, the main frame (content) - frame 3 and the
bottom
>>>>> frame (bottom
>>>>>>> border) - frame 4.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The content on frame 1 & 3 will change whilst 2 &
4
>>>>> will be remain
>>>>>>> constant. I need to find a way to do this and even
>>>>> more important I need
>>>>>>> to find a way (if there is one) of deep linking
the
>>>>> content on frame 3 so
>>>>>>> that it opens automatically on load.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Any guidance would be most welcome. Fred
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>.
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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