Re: Help needed with Sub Webs

From: Stefan B Rusynko (sbr_enjoy_at_hotmail.com)
Date: 08/01/04 

Date: Sun, 1 Aug 2004 04:59:26 -0400

OK
- yes FP2K works with Windows XP Professional

If it is only the root web YWCA_site that is having a problem with the folder New_Folder being converted to a subweb
- check if you can create another folder (say cgi_bin) in that local web (under the root) and convert it to a subweb (you can delete
it later)
- try renaming New_Folder to something else and converting it to a subweb
- detect and repair will not correct bad FP META data in a local FP web

1) In Windows Explorer Find and delete all FP Temp Files in the folder FrontPageTempDir
Usually in C:\WINDOWS\Temp and/or %USERPROFILE%\Local Settings\Temp
2) In Windows Explorer Find and delete all hidden web cache files (*.web) files
Usually in %USERPROFILE%\Application Data\Microsoft\Web Server Extensions\Cache
(where %USERPROFILE% should result in the path: C:\Documents and Settings\ray\)

It's not just the presence of the _private and images folders but also the _hidden _vti_cnf and _vti_pvt folders and their files
that makes the folder a FP DBW web / subweb
(those should never be copied from one folder/web to another)
More importantly FP tracks which folders in a web are subweb folders through the file named "services" in _vti_pvt. In your root
web it should have something like:
/
/campaign
/WorldCouncil
/young_womens
(For your current root and 3 subwebs)
- if somehow New_Folder is listed, delete the entry

FYI
FP disc based webs behave best it they are top level folders w/o spaces in the name / path on your hard drive
Open your root web YWCA_site (which should have the 3 subwebs in it already)
Delete the folder New_Folder (move any content to another folder if needed)
The File Publish Web (All pages including Subwebs) and enter a new Disc based web location
- say C:\YWCA_site\
Close the current web and open the new DBW by File Open Web and browsing to C:\YWCA_site\ and run a tool recalculate hyperlinks
(you can eventually reopen the old web under My Webs and right click its root to delete it and its content)
Create the folder New_Folder (or what ever you are really going to call it) in the root web C:\YWCA_site\ and select convert to web
- you will need to use a File Publish (All Pages, Including Subwebs) the 1st time you publish to your server at
http://www.worldywca.org/ to get the new DBW in sync w/ your online web

You can also open your online web at http://www.worldywca.org/ in FP (File Open Web and enter the same URL), and then just use File
Publish (All Pages, Including Subwebs) but select the new top level disc based location at C:\YWCA_site\ to create the new DBW
- Since your online host apparently supports the FP SE try to convert it to a subweb online
- If it will not convert to a subweb online in FP, delete the folder New_Folder before publishing 

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_____________________________________________
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_____________________________________________
"Ray Cole" <rcole@iprolink.ch> wrote in message news:cei4a6$4bb$1@news.eusc.inter.net...
| Stefan, thanks for getting into this with me.
|
| I assure you that all subwebs are indeed subwebs and not folders. The
| existing subwebs work correctly. I publish them as subwebs, they are nested
| under the main web. I do not publish via FTP, but using FTP I can see all
| the _private files and folders for them. Therefore these private folders
| must be masked during an HTTP check as you have tried.
|
| You were concerned that maybe My Webs could be a root web. Just now as a
| test, I have started other webs under My Webs and they worked. Under those
| webs I opened subwebs and they work as they should.
|
| I am now to the point where I am going to go through the detect and repair
| process to see if there is corruption in the web. I need to get a copy of
| the installation disc, so it will take a few hours.
|
| Are we certain that FP2K works with Windows XP Professional?
|
| Thanks again.
|
| Ray
|
| "Stefan B Rusynko" <sbr_enjoy@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| news:uPIbGhzdEHA.2376@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
| > Locally on your PC, at least YWCA_site is (or must be) a root web
| > Possibly My Webs may also be a root web (empty default FP web)
| > (if it is, then YWCA_site is probably a subweb of My Webs)
| >
| > So you have a DBW (disc based web) - root or subweb - at:
| >   C:\Documents and Settings\ray\My Documents\My Webs\YWCA_site
| >
| > You must have that FP DBW open in FP in order to convert the folder in it
| (New_Folder) to a subweb
| > - rename the folder before you create the subweb (if you want a different
| subweb name)
| >
| > That local DBW in FP probably also has (or can have) the subwebs natassoc,
| campaign, WorldCouncil, young_womens
| >
| > Unless your server is masking the FP SE, it does not appear to have the FP
| SE (or they may be corrupt)
| > - are you publishing using FTP mode?
| > - if not, have your host reapply or repair the FP SE on you root and all
| subwebs
| >
| > According to http://www.worldywca.org/_vti_inf.html
| > The server location http://www.worldywca.org/ does not have the FP SE
| installed (or they are corrupt)
| > And therefore according to
| http://www.worldywca.org/New_Folder/_vti_inf.html
| > New_Folder is not a FP web
| > - it is only a folder under http://www.worldywca.org/
| > (on a server w/ directory listing enabled and no index.htm page)
| > Once the FP SE are repaired at http://www.worldywca.org/ you can open that
| online web in FP and convert the folder New_Folder to a
| > FP subweb
| >
| > Similarly all the other sites you list are all just folders w/ and
| index.htm page in the online web at http://www.worldywca.org/
| >
| > To a server w/o the FP SE a subweb is just a folder
| >
| > -- 
| >
| > _____________________________________________
| > SBR @ ENJOY (-:              [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!"  (-;
| > To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| >   http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > _____________________________________________
| >
| >
| > "Ray Cole" <rcole@iprolink.ch> wrote in message
| news:cegf1m$60j$1@news.eusc.inter.net...
| > | Stefan,
| > |
| > | The complete path is:
| > | C:\Documents and Settings\ray\My Documents\My Webs\YWCA_site\New_Folder
| > |
| > | The site is: http://www.worldywca.org/New_Folder/
| > |
| > | I have other webs on the site:
| > | http://www.worldywca.org/natassoc/index.htm
| > | http://www.worldywca.org/campaign/index.htm
| > | http://www.worldywca.org/WorldCouncil/index.htm
| > | http://www.worldywca.org/young_womens/index.htm
| > |
| > | So when I go to "New_Folder" within FP and try to make a web, that is
| where
| > | I get the error message telling me that "Unable to create a disk-based
| web
| > | at "C:Documents---\site\new_folder" because the parent web would not be
| > | disk-based web."
| > |
| > | The other subwebs were added when I was using Windows 2000. I can still
| add
| > | subwebs to a copy of the web based on Windows 2000.
| > |
| > | I have Windows XP Professional and using MS FrontPage 2000.
| > |
| > | I hope the additional information helps.
| > |
| > | Ray Cole
| > | ====================
| > |
| > | "Stefan B Rusynko" <sbr_enjoy@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| > | news:ObRxWCudEHA.1952@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
| > | > Unless you answer specifically which web you have open in FP (full
| path),
| > | and where in that web the folder named "new_folder" is, no
| > | > one can help
| > | >
| > | > - there is no "rootweb on the Windows XP" for disc based webs,
| especially
| > | in Win XP Home w/o IIS
| > | > -- 
| > | >
| > | > _____________________________________________
| > | > SBR @ ENJOY (-:              [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| > | > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!"  (-;
| > | > To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| > | >   http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > | > _____________________________________________
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > "Ray Cole" <rcole@iprolink.ch> wrote in message
| > | news:cefhiq$gkv$1@news.eusc.inter.net...
| > | > | Thanks again Stefan,
| > | > |
| > | > | My basic site is about 50 megs and contains 5 subwebs. The subwebs
| > | permit me
| > | > | to easily update changes to the subwebs without dealing with the
| > | complete 50
| > | > | megs. The basic web (50 megs with subwebs) are FP webs and have been
| > | working
| > | > | well for years.
| > | > |
| > | > | I am now attempting to change one folder of the FP web to be a
| subweb
| > | and
| > | > | get the error message. When I put the error message into Google, it
| > | sends me
| > | > | to the Microsoft site that tells me the computer must have the
| _private,
| > | et
| > | > | al files which confuses FP. If these files can be removed, then the
| > | problem
| > | > | should go away. I cannot find the rootweb on the Windows XP. Do you
| have
| > | any
| > | > | ideas where these are located? There is no folder called inetpub.
| > | > |
| > | > | Thanks for sticking with me.
| > | > |
| > | > | Ray
| > | > |
| > | > | "Stefan B Rusynko" <sbr_enjoy@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| > | > | news:e1fcoCmdEHA.4004@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
| > | > | > If you have the DBW Open in FP (using File Open Web/Site) at
| > | > | >   C:\Documents...\...\...\site\new_folder
| > | > | > Then it is already a FP web
| > | > | > - Why are you trying to make it a Web (or Subweb) When it is
| already a
| > | Web
| > | > | ?
| > | > | > Is C:\Documents...\...\...\site a FP Web
| > | > | >  - yes or no?
| > | > | >
| > | > | > The wwwroot is only relevant if you are running a server based web
| > | under
| > | > | IIS , which you are not
| > | > | >
| > | > | > -- 
| > | > | >
| > | > | > _____________________________________________
| > | > | > SBR @ ENJOY (-:              [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| > | > | > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!"  (-;
| > | > | > To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| > | > | >   http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > | > | > _____________________________________________
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > | > "Ray Cole" <rcole@iprolink.ch> wrote in message
| > | > | news:cedt84$q5b$1@news.eusc.inter.net...
| > | > | > | Thanks Stefan,
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | I appreciate your guidance. However, the site I have open is
| > | > | > |  C:Documents --- \site\new_folder and I cannot change that
| folder to
| > | a
| > | > | web.
| > | > | > | When I try to do this, I get the error message. Something has
| > | happened
| > | > | that
| > | > | > | makes the path appear to FP2K that it is part of the root web.
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | Microsoft gives directions to go the wwwroot folder and remove
| the
| > | > | _private,
| > | > | > | et al files and the problem will go away. However, on Windows XP
| I
| > | > | cannot
| > | > | > | find this folder. Any idea where published data goes on Windows
| XP?
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | All help appreciated.
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | Ray Cole
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | "Stefan B Rusynko" <sbr_enjoy@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| > | > | > | news:ekHtUXXdEHA.3512@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
| > | > | > | > If you are working in a folder path based web it is a disc
| based
| > | web
| > | > | and
| > | > | > | does not need the FP SE or use inetpub/wwwroot
| > | > | > | > C:Documents --- \site\new_folder is a disc based web path
| > | > | > | > If the site you have open is C:Documents --- \site\
| > | > | > | > - then you can create the subweb named new_folder
| > | > | > | > - but you can not create a subweb under a folder named
| > | "new_folder"
| > | > | that
| > | > | > | is a part of the root web named "site"
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > -- 
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > _____________________________________________
| > | > | > | > SBR @ ENJOY (-:              [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
| > | > | > | > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!"  (-;
| > | > | > | > To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
| > | > | > | >   http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
| > | > | > | > _____________________________________________
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | >
| > | > | > | > "Ray Cole" <rcole@iprolink.ch> wrote in message
| > | > | > | news:ceavag$hks$1@news.eusc.inter.net...
| > | > | > | > | I am getting an error when I attempt to change a folder to a
| > | web. I
| > | > | have
| > | > | > | > | been using the parent web for years  on a hard disc and
| publish
| > | > | > | externally
| > | > | > | > | to a host site. All I am trying to do is to add one more
| web.
| > | Now
| > | > | > | > | I get the error message telling me it is impossible.
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | When I create a new folder within the main web and ask for
| it to
| > | be
| > | > | a
| > | > | > | > | subweb, I get the error "Server error: Unable to create a
| > | disk-based
| > | > | web
| > | > | > | at
| > | > | > | > | "C:Documents---\site\new_folder" because the parent web
| would
| > | not be
| > | > | a
| > | > | > | > | disk-based web."
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | My webs are on a Windows XP using FP2K
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | Microsoft support site says that this means that the
| > | inetpub/wwwroot
| > | > | > | folder
| > | > | > | > | has the _vpi_pvt and _private files and need to be removed.
| > | These
| > | > | > | > | instructions seem to apply to Windows 2000 but not to
| Windows
| > | XP. I
| > | > | > | cannot
| > | > | > | > | find the wwwroot folder on the machine.
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | Is it possible that Windows XP does not work with FP2K. Or
| is it
| > | > | > | possible
| > | > | > | > | that one of the Microsoft security fixes just screwed this
| up?
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | All help appreciated
| > | > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > | Ray
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