Re: Can't open a second page or link without a Fault causing FP to

From: Thomas A. Rowe (tarowe_at_mvps.org)
Date: 07/13/04 

Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 01:39:39 -0400

Ok, did you install FP2002 after or before installing the Office XP Apps and if after install Office
XP, have you re-applied the Office XP Updates? 

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"Hofendis" <Hofendis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> FP 2002
>
> "Thomas A. Rowe" wrote:
>
> > Which version of FP you working with?
> >
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> >
> > "Hofendis" <Hofendis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:A036B0E0-F073-4073-A675-553BB8EA1449@microsoft.com...
> > > One more clue. I installed FP on yet another computer. This differs from the other two in that
it
> > has Office 2000 on it instead of Office 2002. Otherwise it is also a WinXP machine with all of
the
> > latest patches. The only other difference is that it did not have a copy of Mozilla Firefox
> > installed (the other two did, although I uninstalled it from one of those and uninstalled and
> > reinstalled FP just in case something there might have caused this...but no change).
> > >
> > > Bottom line, I shared the web directory and connected to it from this third machine and it
works
> > fine. No problems opening up the existing site. So it's apparently not a problem with the
> > pages/folders themselves, but something to do with FP and its interaction with the OS or other
> > programs (OfficeXPsp3? or Firefox...these are the only two new programs/patches that are on the
two
> > machines that throw the fault, that are not on the machine that works or the old original
> > workstation.)
> > >
> > > Are there any reported conflicts between FP and OfficeXpsp3 or Firefox?????
> > >
> > > -sd
> > >
> > > "Hofendis" wrote:
> > >
> > > > <sigh> The directory was apparently a mixed bag of read only and not read only
files/folders. I
> > cleared the tab for all files, folders and subfolders, checked; then went back to the beginning
&
> > cleared all *vt's, cache, temp, etc. No luck. As soon as I added the nav bar it crashed out
again
> > same way.
> > > >
> > > > -sd
> > > >
> > > > "Stefan B Rusynko" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Using Windows Explorer Make sure the folders / files you "moved" do not have any read only
> > attributes still set (if moved from a CD)
> > > > >
> > > > > -- 
> > > > >
> > > > > _____________________________________________
> > > > > SBR @ ENJOY (-:              [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
> > > > > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!"  (-;
> > > > > To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
> > > > >   http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
> > > > > _____________________________________________
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "Hofendis" <Hofendis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:3C29C8C7-923D-4513-87B6-1F28961F6680@microsoft.com...
> > > > > | Yes. I first added all of my top level pages to the navigation view, then added the nav
bar.
> > Then after I'd had my next crash and
> > > > > was trying to pin down where this was happening, went through these steps:
> > > > > |
> > > > > | 1. cleared everything as per your previous instructions (except for reinstalling IE
again)
> > > > > | 2. added top, left and bottom borders...and tested opening a few pages.
> > > > > | 3. added a graphic banner into the top border and tested.
> > > > > | 4. added a left side nav bar and tested...this is where the fault reappeared.
> > > > > | 5. after reopening FP, I removed the nav bar and retested...and could open multiple
pages
> > again.
> > > > > |
> > > > > | Unless there's some other coincidental thing going on, somewhere/somehow this seems to
be
> > related to the navigation. (I did
> > > > > recalculate hyperlinks several times during this process.) Is it possible that in moving
all
> > of the files/folders from the original
> > > > > machine's HDD to this one, something is deep in the background related to where everything
> > lives?
> > > > > |
> > > > > | (All of my program data (for all programs) live in one main directory off the root. When
I
> > copied the data over, the entire
> > > > > directory was copied. No names were changed in the process...all are legal with respect to
> > no-spaces and punctuation. )
> > > > > |
> > > > > | Thx,
> > > > > |
> > > > > | -sd
> > > > > |
> > > > > | "Stefan B Rusynko" wrote:
> > > > > |
> > > > > | > Are you adding a nav bar based on Navigation
> > > > > | > - do you have any pages in Nav view and are the file names (not titles in nav view)
legal
> > (w/o any punctuation or spaces in file
> > > > > | > names)
> > > > > | >
> > > > > | >
> > > > > | > _____________________________________________
> > > > > | > SBR @ ENJOY (-:              [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
> > > > > | > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!"  (-;
> > > > > | > To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
> > > > > | >   http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
> > > > > | > _____________________________________________
> > > > > | >
> > > > > | >
> > > > > | > "Hofendis" <Hofendis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:A5C4ED78-F40D-43A5-86C3-824AE02E77F7@microsoft.com...
> > > > > | > | This was helpful... here's where I've ended up. I followed ALL of your instructions
and
> > ended up with a web folder with all of
> > > > > my
> > > > > | > files, graphics, etc. I can open multiple pages with no fault.
> > > > > | > |
> > > > > | > | I find I can add back in the shared borders with no faults. However, as soon as I
add a
> > navigation bar to the shared borders,
> > > > > I'm
> > > > > | > zapped with the same problem. If I then take out the navigation bar, I'm okay.
> > > > > | > |
> > > > > | > | Does this help?
> > > > > | > |
> > > > > | > | -sd
> > > > > | > |
> > > > > | > | "Stefan B Rusynko" wrote:
> > > > > | > |
> > > > > | > | > When you FTP'd it, did you include your old shared borders folder
> > > > > | > | > - if so before you open it in FP rename the shared border files in the _borders
folder
> > > > > | > | > - then delete any and all _vt* files/folders and _derived folders (if you had or
FTP'd
> > them)
> > > > > | > | >
> > > > > | > | > Then do some system clean up
> > > > > | > | >
> > > > > | > | > 1) In Windows Explorer Find and delete all FP Temp Files
> > > > > | > | > Usually in C:\WINDOWS\Temp and %USERPROFILE%\Local Settings\Temp
> > > > > | > | > 2) In Windows Explorer Find and delete all hidden *.web files
> > > > > | > | > Usually in %USERPROFILE%\Application Data\Microsoft\Web Server Extensions\Cache
> > > > > | > | > 3) Run a Repair on IE
> > > > > | > | > (see http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=318378 )
> > > > > | > | > 4) Install all Service Packs for your OS, IE, MS Office and your Video card
> > > > > | > | > (Windows Update and Office Update sites, plus your video card supplier site)
> > > > > | > | > 5) Clear your IE cache (temp files),
> > > > > | > | > 6) Open your folder as a FP Web/Site and run a Tools Recalculate Hyperlinks
> > > > > | > | >
> > > > > | > | >
> > > > > | > | > -- 
> > > > > | > | >
> > > > > | > | > _____________________________________________
> > > > > | > | > SBR @ ENJOY (-:              [ Microsoft MVP - FrontPage ]
> > > > > | > | > "Warning - Using the F1 Key will not break anything!"  (-;
> > > > > | > | > To find the best Newsgroup for FrontPage support see:
> > > > > | > | >   http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
> > > > > | > | > _____________________________________________
> > > > > | > | >
> > > > > | > | >
> > > > > | > | > "Hofendis" <Hofendis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:350B7A5F-DA79-439C-B3D0-3E75BC62E3BC@microsoft.com...
> > > > > | > | > | I put it into a plain non-web folder. Then in FP, did a 'convert to web' on the
> > folder.
> > > > > | > | > |
> > > > > | > | > | In the last hour, I installed a temporary copy of FP on my WinXP laptop and
copied
> > the web into the My Webs folder (as a
> > > > > | > subweb I
> > > > > | > | > guess). The first page that I opened worked fine, then got the same error message
when
> > opening a second page. What I'm
> > > > > hoping is
> > > > > | > | > that I've eliminated any OS or machine-specific problem??? What the machines have
in
> > common is WinXPsp1, IE6sp1, OfficeXPsp3
> > > > > and
> > > > > | > all
> > > > > | > | > of the lastest Windows OS and Office patches. I also tried opening another of my
> > websites, however, and it too caused a
> > > > > fault in
> > > > > | > the
> > > > > | > | > same way, so it doesn't 'appear' that it is simply a matter of a corrupted site.
> > > > > | > | > |
> > > > > | > | > | The event viewer shows the following: Faulting application frontpg.exe version
> > 10.0.2623.0, faulting module unknown,
> > > > > version
> > > > > | > | > 0.0.0.0, fault address 0x00037e00.
> > > > > | > | > |
> > > > > | > | > | This has been pretty consistent, except that the fault address varies.
> > > > > | > | > |
> > > > > | > | > | Does any of this ring any bells for you?
> > > > > | > | > |
> > > > > | > | > | -sd
> > > > > | > | > |
> > > > > | > | > | "Thomas A. Rowe" wrote:
> > > > > | > | > |
> > > > > | > | > | > Are you saying the you download the content directly into a open FP web or
that
> > you put it in a
> > > > > | > | > | > folder on your HD, then open that folder via FP?
> > > > > | > | > | >
> > > > > | > | > | > The second way above is the correct way.
> > > > > | > | > | >
> > > > > | > | > | > -- 
> > > > > | > | > | > ==============================================
> > > > > | > | > | > Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
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> > > > > | > | > | >
> > > > > | > | > | > "Hofendis" <Hofendis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > > > | > | > | > news:5F89FB98-CDC6-466B-A973-9E398F605F6D@microsoft.com...
> > > > > | > | > | > > Nothing special...just a standard folder. I then did a 'convert to web' on
the
> > folder.
> > > > > | > | > | > Unfortunately, when I then attempted to add a shared border, I got the same
'needs
> > to close' error.
> > > > > | > | > | > Thoughts?
> > > > > | > | > | > >
> > > > > | > | > | > > -sd
> > > > > | > | > | > >
> > > > > | > | > | > > PS Thanks for sticking with me on this!
> > > > > | > | > | > >
> > > > > | > | > | > > "Thomas A. Rowe" wrote:
> > > > > | > | > | > >
> > > > > | > | > | > > > When you download the site via FTP to your computer, what folder did you
place
> > it in?
> > > > > | > | > | > > >
> > > > > | > | > | > > > The problem with publishing to a server that doesn't have the FP
extensions,
> > is that if you ever
> > > > > | > | > | > > > loose your local copy and have download a copy via FTP back to your
machine,
> > is that you will
> > > > > | > | > | > have
> > > > > | > | > | > > > reapply any themes, recreate your navigation structure/links and shared
> > borders.
> > > > > | > | > | > > >
> > > > > | > | > | > > > -- 
> > > > > | > | > | > > > ==============================================
> > > > > | > | > | > > > Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
> > > > > | > | > | > > > WEBMASTER Resources(tm)
> > > > > | > | > | > > > http://www.ycoln-resources.com
> > > > > | > | > | > > > FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
> > > > > | > | > | > > > ==============================================
> > > > > | > | > | > > > To assist you in getting the best answers for FrontPage support see:
> > > > > | > | > | > > > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
> > > > > | > | > | > > >
> > > > > | > | > | > > > "Hofendis" <Hofendis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > > > | > | > | > > > news:810843FA-7640-4E83-BB89-C8F739EDBB28@microsoft.com...
> > > > > | > | > | > > > > I've been trying to follow his advice, but as I wrote, my hosting server
is
> > an ftp server and
> > > > > | > | > | > does
> > > > > | > | > | > > > not allow me to attach to it via http, so I can't publish from the live
site.
> > I DID, however,
> > > > > | > | > | > use
> > > > > | > | > | > > > WS-FTP to download the site to my computer...but lost the navigation &
shared
> > borders. As soon
> > > > > | > | > | > as I
> > > > > | > | > | > > > attempted to add a shared border back in to these pages, I got the same
> > "Frontpage has
> > > > > | > | > | > encountered a
> > > > > | > | > | > > > problem and needs to close' message.
> > > > > | > | > | > > > >
> > > > > | > | > | > > > > I'm really stuck. I need to update our .org site and am off the air
until I
> > can find a fix to
> > > > > | > | > | > > > this!
> > > > > | > | > | > > > >
> > > > > | > | > | > > > > -sd
> > > > > | > | > | > > > >
> > > > > | > | > | > > > > "Thomas A. Rowe" wrote:
> > > > > | > | > | > > > >
> > > > > | > | > | > > > > > See Jim Buyens reply to your prior post.
> > > > > | > | > | > > > > >
> > > > > | > | > | > > > > > -- 
> > > > > | > | > | > > > > > ==============================================
> > > > > | > | > | > > > > > Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
> > > > > | > | > | > > > > > WEBMASTER Resources(tm)
> > > > > | > | > | > > > > > http://www.ycoln-resources.com
> > > > > | > | > | > > > > > FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
> > > > > | > | > | > > > > > ==============================================
> > > > > | > | > | > > > > > To assist you in getting the best answers for FrontPage support see:
> > > > > | > | > | > > > > > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
> > > > > | > | > | > > > > >
> > > > > | > | > | > > > > > "Hofendis" <Hofendis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > > > | > | > | > > > > > news:1132EABE-1B0C-468D-BB6E-D3D06E6B2BAF@microsoft.com...
> > > > > | > | > | > > > > > > Can you help me understand why I can't use the same data folders
with
> > the new copy of FP?
> > > > > | > | > | > Is
> > > > > | > | > | > > > there
> > > > > | > | > | > > > > > something behind the scenes going on that isn't obvious?
> > > > > | > | > | > > > > > >
> > > > > | > | > | > > > > > > I can't pull down from the live site as it is an ftp site and FP
doesn't
> > seem to support
> > > > > | > | > | > that.
> > > > > | > | > | > > > I
> > > > > | > | > | > > > > > did try publishing the site from the old directory, but trying to use
the
> > files in the new
> > > > > | > | > | > > > folder
> > > > > | > | > | > > > > > causes the same fault.
> > > > > | > | > | > > > > > >
> > > > > | > | > | > > > > > > "Thomas A. Rowe" wrote:
> > > > > | > | > | > > > > > >
> > > > > | > | > | > > > > > > > You need to publish them either from the old machine or from the
live
> > site the new
> > > > > | > | > | > machine
> > > > > | > | > | > > > in
> > > > > | > | > | > > > > > order
> > > > > | > | > | > > > > > > > to maintain the web structure.
> > > > > | > | > | > > > > > > >
> > > > > | > | > | > > > > > > > -- 
> > > > > | > | > | > > > > > > > ==============================================
> > > > > | > | > | > > > > > > > Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
> > > > > | > | > | > > > > > > > WEBMASTER Resources(tm)
> > > > > | > | > | > > > > > > > http://www.ycoln-resources.com
> > > > > | > | > | > > > > > > > FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
> > > > > | > | > | > > > > > > > ==============================================
> > > > > | > | > | > > > > > > > To assist you in getting the best answers for FrontPage support
see:
> > > > > | > | > | > > > > > > > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
> > > > > | > | > | > > > > > > >
> > > > > | > | > | > > > > > > > "Hofendis" <Hofendis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > > > | > | > | > > > > > > > news:603A6AB8-126B-42E4-9704-E42ACB34EB9A@microsoft.com...
> > > > > | > | > | > > > > > > > > I installed Frontpage on the new computer, then moved all of my
data
> > files to the new
> > > > > | > | > | > > > computer
> > > > > | > | > | > > > > > as
> > > > > | > | > | > > > > > > > well.
> > > > > | > | > | > > > > > > > >
> > > > > | > | > | > > > > > > > > One other problem found tonight. When opening web pages in
IE6SP1, I
> > seem to be
> > > > > | > | > | > getting an
> > > > > | > | > | > > > > > > > occasional 'debug' error that points to a java line. I don't have
> > enough expertise to
> > > > > | > | > | > know
> > > > > | > | > | > > > if
> > > > > | > | > | > > > > > there
> > > > > | > | > | > > > > > > > is any relation to the Frontpage fault. <?>
> > > > > | > | > | > > > > > > > >
> > > > > | > | > | > > > > > > > > -Steve
> > > > > | > | > | > > > > > > > >
> > > > > | > | > | > > > > > > > > "Thomas A. Rowe" wrote:
> > > > > | > | > | > > > > > > > >
> > > > > | > | > | > > > > > > > > > How did you move the site from the old computer to the new
> > computer?
> > > > > | > | > | > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > | > | > | > > > > > > > > > -- 
> > > > > | > | > | > > > > > > > > > ==============================================
> > > > > | > | > | > > > > > > > > > Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
> > > > > | > | > | > > > > > > > > > WEBMASTER Resources(tm)
> > > > > | > | > | > > > > > > > > > http://www.ycoln-resources.com
> > > > > | > | > | > > > > > > > > > FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
> > > > > | > | > | > > > > > > > > > ==============================================
> > > > > | > | > | > > > > > > > > > To assist you in getting the best answers for FrontPage
support
> > see:
> > > > > | > | > | > > > > > > > > > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
> > > > > | > | > | > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > | > | > | > > > > > > > > > "Hofendis" <Hofendis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message
> > > > > | > | > | > > > > > > > > > news:6DA6905A-7998-45C1-AADE-E2D0833EA201@microsoft.com...
> > > > > | > | > | > > > > > > > > > > Yikes! All of a sudden, I can't open any second page in
> > Frontpage 2002 or click on
> > > > > | > | > | > a
> > > > > | > | > | > > > link
> > > > > | > | > | > > > > > > > without
> > > > > | > | > | > > > > > > > > > getting a fault causing Frontpage to close. I did move my
sites to
> > a new computer a
> > > > > | > | > | > > > couple
> > > > > | > | > | > > > > > of
> > > > > | > | > | > > > > > > > weeks
> > > > > | > | > | > > > > > > > > > ago and reinstalled Frontpage 2002 with all of the current
> > updates. Used it
> > > > > | > | > | > succesfully
> > > > > | > | > | > > > with
> > > > > | > | > | > > > > > no
> > > > > | > | > | > > > > > > > > > problem after that. Nothing new in Frontpage or my website
pages
> > since then. Not
> > > > > | > | > | > other
> > > > > | > | > | > > > > > problems
> > > > > | > | > | > > > > > > > that
> > > > > | > | > | > > > > > > > > > I've found in other MS programs or any other programs...only
> > Frontpage.  Using WinXP
> > > > > | > | > | > > > SP1;
> > > > > | > | > | > > > > > Office
> > > > > | > | > | > > > > > > > XP
> > > > > | > | > | > > > > > > > > > SP3.
> > > > > | > | > | > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > | > | > | > > > > > > > > > >  HELP!!!
> > > > > | > | > | > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > | > | > | > > > > > > > > > > -sd
> > > > > | > | > | > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > | > | > | > > > > > > > > > > PS A follow up to this. I've now totally uninstalled and
> > reinstalled Frontpage.
> > > > > | > | > | > I've
> > > > > | > | > | > > > > > started
> > > > > | > | > | > > > > > > > > > Windows in Safe Mode...nothing else running on the machine.
And
> > STILL get this
> > > > > | > | > | > fault. I
> > > > > | > | > | > > > can
> > > > > | > | > | > > > > > open
> > > > > | > | > | > > > > > > > one
> > > > > | > | > | > > > > > > > > > page. Then, even if I close that page, as soon as I try to
open a
> > second or click on
> > > > > | > | > | > a
> > > > > | > | > | > > > link,
> > > > > | > | > | > > > > > > > Fault!
> > > > > | > | > | > > > > > > > > > <sigh>
> > > > > | > | > | > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > | > | > | > > > > > > > > >
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Relevant Pages

  • Re: Office 2003 breaks XPs Web Folders?
    ... Delete the Web Folder, then open the site in IE, then Edit with FP and see if that works. ... FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc. ... > Network Places," clicked on "Add a network place," and tried to add ... > Then I installed Office 2003 Professional using the Complete Install ...
    (microsoft.public.frontpage.client)
  • Re: Office 2003 breaks XPs Web Folders?
    ... Your web folder should now have been recreated, and you should be able to open your web / site via ... FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc. ... And why did My Network Places stop being able to add this ... >>> Then I installed Office 2003 Professional using the Complete Install ...
    (microsoft.public.frontpage.client)
  • Re: "microsoft frontpage", "xerox" folders
    ... The folder is part of the management of the O/S, and is not the FrontPage ... I didn't install FrontPage by deselection, ... |> Tom "Pepper" Willett ...
    (microsoft.public.windowsxp.general)
  • Re: Document Library - Forms - Cannot add a template
    ... Frontpage, I thought let me look there. ... and then went back to the Form Library and clicked on the explorer view and I ... could see the Forms folder. ... install the application in there ...
    (microsoft.public.sharepoint.windowsservices)
  • Re: Want to rename a website on my system
    ... you're only renaming the web folder, ... > rename it, outside of frontpage ... ... > provision for that inside of Frontpage. ...
    (microsoft.public.frontpage.client)