Re: Search Incomplete

From: Brian Mailman (bmailman_at_sfo.invalid)
Date: 06/04/04


Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2004 08:40:35 -0700

OK. And if this is the case, as it seems to be, what can I do to get
the search component to work completely again? This (the incomplete
results on a search) began recently and I've done nothing differently,
no new setups, no new anything.

To recap, I've uninstalled and reinstalled the extensions. Republished
the entire site from my hard disk, overwriting all the files.
Recalculated the hyperlinks *many* times. Reinstalled the search
component. I'm reaching the end of my wits.

B/

"Thomas A. Rowe" wrote:
>
> On Windows 2000 Server, the host could choose not to use Index Server which is the default and force
> the extensions to use the WAIS Text search engine.
>
> --
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> Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
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> FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
> ==============================================
> To assist you in getting the best answers for FrontPage support see:
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>
> "Brian Mailman" <bmailman@sfo.invalid> wrote in message news:40C0892B.84924418@sfo.com...
> > Yet again I receive the same answer from their tech non-support (I
> > *specifically* requested a phone callback from a tech instead of email,
> > was assured that would happen and it didn't). Again, they wrote:
> >
> > "...As previously indicated, since our Windows 2000 servers use Web Bots
> > instead of the Index Server, there is no index catalog to delete."
> >
> > I've seen dozens, if not hundreds of times, advice from many of the MVPs
> > about the index catalog. It's difficult to believe that it suddenly
> > doesn't exist.
> >
> > True or false? Is Interland feeding me a line?
> >
> > B/
> >
> > Brian Mailman wrote:
> > >
> > > OK. Just received an email from them, and apparently they are refusing
> > > to do what was requested. Snipping a whole bunch of nonsense from the
> > > email (the person responding apparently hadn't read the tickets because
> > > he thought the search compnent was out altogether):
> > >
> > > "Anyway on our 2000 server Front Page uses webbots and not index server
> > > for search
> > > functionality..."
> > >
> > > I'm supposed to receive a phone call tomorrow sometime when they
> > > "resolve the issue." What do I tell them in response to that? I'm
> > > fairly sure they're *sort of* right because I remember seeing somethng
> > > about "WAIS" (whatever that is) and not "IIS" but it doesn't seem
> > > correct.
> > >
> > > B/
> > >
> > > Brian Mailman wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Thanks... it's Interland. The fellow I just spoke to said he "didn't
> > > > have the tools" to do that, but he'd kick it up a notch to 'systems
> > > > administration.' No estimate on when that would happen "could be 10,
> > > > 15, 35 minutes; could be 24-48 hours." Sheesh.
> > > >
> > > > Anyway, more to follow.
> > > >
> > > > B/
> > > >
> > > > "Thomas A. Rowe" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Ask your host to deleted and recreate the Index Catalog for your site.
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > ==============================================
> > > > > Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
> > > > > WEBMASTER Resources(tm)
> > > > > http://www.ycoln-resources.com
> > > > > FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
> > > > > ==============================================
> > > > > To assist you in getting the best answers for FrontPage support see:
> > > > > http://www.net-sites.com/sitebuilder/newsgroups.asp
> > > > >
> > > > > "Brian Mailman" <bmailman@sfo.invalid> wrote in message news:40BE0828.34406BEF@sfo.com...
> > > > > > Apparently, I've managed to stump the MVPs :)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > OK, I've removed and reinstalled the extensions.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I've republished the entire site from my hard disk.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I've run "Reports" and fixed up any broken or unlinked files on the
> > > > > > remote web. I've recalculated hyperlinks after that.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The search results are STILL incomplete (that is, not every page with a
> > > > > > search term is coming up).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Does anyone have any ideas? Has this ever occurred? Seems weird to me,
> > > > > > the search component should either work or not work, not just work
> > > > > > incompletely.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > B/
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Brian Mailman wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Fruther questions -- would this misfiring of the component mean the
> > > > > > > extensions are corrupted? Does anyone think that deleting the remote
> > > > > > > web and republishing the entire local web from my hard disk might help?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > B/
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Brian Mailman wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > XP
> > > > > > > > FP 2002
> > > > > > > > http://www.jewishfood-list.com
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I have the search component on this page:
> > > > > > > > http://www.jewishfood-list.com/recipes/recipe_index.html
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > and it's been coming up with incomplete results. That is, I type in
> > > > > > > > "spinach" into the slot and it only returns 13 results. Same with other
> > > > > > > > known words.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I _have_ recalculated the hyperlinks (several times); I've removed the
> > > > > > > > .btr files from my local web, recalculated and published and
> > > > > > > > recalculated again... no luck.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > This just started last week, and there's nothing I've done differently
> > > > > > > > (that I can think of).
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Erf!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > B/



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