Re: Netscape: font size

From: Jack Brewster (jack_at_removethis.andthis.mvps.org)
Date: 04/22/04 

Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2004 13:57:48 -0700

The only folks here who work for Microsoft usually have MSFT in their name.
The rest of us just have no lives so we like to hang out here and answer
questions. ;)

As to whether or not FP can make a site that is completely cross browser
compatible, yes, it can. But there is a burden on the user to understand
what they are trying to do and understand their tools' capabilities and
limitations. Just because I go out and buy top of the line wood working
tools doesn't mean that I'm going to turn out the quality of work that Norm
Abrams (http://www.newyankee.com) can. It's up to me to learn how to best
use the tools to achieve my desired results.

FrontPage is a great application and I use it every day to do professional
production work. But I also have about 14 different browsers and browser
versions on my computer because no program can tell me how things are going
to look. I have to check that myself. Frequently I'll find something that
works just fine in IE, Netscape, Mozilla and Firebird/fox only to find that
Opera isn't displaying as expected. Is that Microsoft/FrontPage's fault?
No. Is it a bug in Opera? Maybe. But it could just as easily be a bug in
all the other browsers and Opera is the only one getting it right. Crazy, I
know, but it's the nature of the business.

If someone wants to do professional work, then they need to learn about the
medium they've chosen to work in. Websites, woodworking, needlepoint,
speech writing. It's all the same. Until someone has studied, practiced
and yes, even failed, it's unreasonable to expect them to do the job right
every time. That same truth is only magnified when applied to software.
Applications are unable to think, experience, and adapt like we can.

Sorry, that turned into a rant. I'm not normally like that but I do get
tired of people bashing on FrontPage as if they expect it, or any
application, for that matter, to be the silver bullet for web design. Maybe
someday applications will be that smart, but for now anyone building a
website really does need to spend time learning about websites and web
technologies in general, not just learning to use a program. 

-- 
Jack Brewster - Microsoft FrontPage MVP
"Fidelio" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:78C6C878-1244-49F5-BF0E-73C2E195E87D@microsoft.com...
> I'm just here trying to ask for help with Fonts.  I don't mean to
criticize FP.  But you say I have to know which features to use and not
use...well, when they programmed FP, maybe they should have taken that into
consideration with other browsers.  This is supposed to be a program for
creating websites.  But if you can't create a website that has all browser
compatibility, then what is the program good for?  You can't use it for
professional websites, because businesses need to have cross-compatability.
>
> It seems as though most or some of you may work for MS, so I understand
why you may take offense to criticism.  And I really do appreciate the help
I receive on here.
>
> But I do believe that if the creators of FP would have taken these things
into consideration, I wouldn't need help.  The whole point of my using FP is
because I'm not very html literate, and don't really aspire to be.  I use FP
because I don't like writing html, I like laying things out easily, the way
FP allows me to.

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