Re: ASP.NET
From: Bob Lehmann (nospam_at_dontbotherme.zzz)
Date: 02/09/04
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Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2004 17:11:54 -0700
<.02>
"User Friendly" is in the eye of the beholder. I find Visual Studio to be
very friendly.
The thing to keep in mind is that Visual Studio is more a development
environment than a web design tool. If anything, I would think that
FrontPage should be enhanced to integrate better with the Visual Studio
tools, since its strength is page design.
</.02>
Bob Lehmann
"chris leeds" <chris@nedp.net> wrote in message
news:u3qRzhm7DHA.2300@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> I just want to do a FrontPage include page into an aspx page and I can't
> seem to. I can't seem to find a solid answer as to whether it's possible
in
> fp 2003 or if there's some sort of trick or hack.
> I think if VS was a little more user friendly the FrontPage users who are
> really motivated will use it in tandem. It's what we've been doing with
> photo editors and menu making utilities and the like for a while anyway.
> Maybe I'm on the dense side (I can't seem to learn flash) but every time
> I've opened VS it's like alien technology to me.
> </IMHO>
> "Jim Buyens" <news@interlacken.com> wrote in message
> news:36a7e008.0402080910.2f49b940@posting.google.com...
> > "Jim Cheshire" <contactme@www.jimcoaddins.com> wrote in message
> news:<e79JyCf7DHA.1040@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl>...
> > > > tools specifically oriented to Web designers aren't
> > > > there yet.
> > >
> > > I think the Web Forms designer team at Microsoft would probably
disagree
> > > here. While VS.NET does fall short of FrontPage in the area of table
> > > editing and in some other areas, for the most part, the VS.NET
designer
> is
> > > pretty darned good. Whidbey is a HUGE step forward in this area and
> will
> > > likely dwarf FrontPage in producing good HTML code.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Jim Cheshire
> > > Jimco
> > > http://www.jimcoaddins.com
> >
> > The other branch of this thread illustrates a sure trend of Web
> > designers sticking with tools like FrontPage, Dreamweaver, and ASP.
> >
> > Some of this is learning curve, and some is a factor of hosting
> > services not installing the .NET Framework on their servers. But the
> > biggest reason for Web designers avoiding .NET seems to be that:
> >
> > o Visual Studio doesn't have the WYSIWYG design tools that
> > Web designers want.
> > o WYSIWYG design tools like FrontPage and Dreamweaver don't
> > have the coding, testing, and deployment tools that make
> > ASP.NET easy to use.
> >
> > If Microsoft fixes this in Whidbey, great. Personally, I find it hard
> > to visualize the Visual Studio team bringing, artistically-oriented,
> > non-programming designers into their usability labs and reworking the
> > product based on that input. But maybe they are, and if so I
> > congratulate them.
> >
> > Otherwise, they and the Office team need to get more .NET features
> > into FrontPage.
> >
> > Jim Buyens
> > Microsoft FrontPage MVP
> > http://www.interlacken.com
> > Author of:
> > *----------------------------------------------------
> > |\---------------------------------------------------
> > || Microsoft Office FrontPage 2003 Inside Out
> > ||---------------------------------------------------
> > || Web Database Development Step by Step .NET Edition
> > || Microsoft FrontPage Version 2002 Inside Out
> > || Faster Smarter Beginning Programming
> > || (All from Microsoft Press)
> > |/---------------------------------------------------
> > *----------------------------------------------------
>
>
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