Re: vista pia

Hello Stefan,

my point is not the "limited users" - of course you must be able to
limit the user who need to be limited but as an admin you should have
full access to your pc - including writing to program files folder
(doesn't an admin have full access on Linux?)
and you should be able to see how things on your pc are really.

Some things like that:

- copy a file into a programm file folder and it looks as if it exists
but when you open it is empty and the file() function tells you it
wouldn't exist

- copy an existing report file into this folder (overwrite one) - the
app still shows the old one.

What's that for a nonsense - do it fully or don't do it at all.
Ok, i know how to solve all this but i don't want to explain all that
to users and i really don't want to make complete setups only because
of a new report...

I don't like an OS which cheats you somehow... for me : the idea was
maybe good - the implementation and the problems for developers are a
catastrophe and i doubt (and all reports i was reading too) that it
will stop the bad boys... for them it's just another challenge.

There are other things like the extremly slow file operations (if Vista
would just do the job instead of endless thinking how long it may
take...) but this things are not specially developer related....

On XP the limited user couldn't do everything - fine because maybe he
shouldn't but the admin could do and thats what an admin is for.

The owner of the pc makes a decision and windows should respect it -
not the other way round and by the way it even wants to stop me
printing a pdf to c:\temp - fine, thx.

Regards
Michael


Stefan Wuebbe wrote:

Hi Michael -

"Michael Bickel" <Michael.Bickel@xxxxxxx> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:OP4Ri4oNIHA.4272@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <...>
What MS created causes a lot of people and a lot of programms a lot
of problems. It's not only one program on my pc which has problems
with Vista. And of course the users will blaim the programs not
Vista.

My point is: It is not fair to blame Vista when things like writing to
%programfiles% at runtime do not work anymore - because since
many years the very same thing did not work in WinXP for limited
user accounts either. So when people blame applications for stuff
like that, they are right.

why is something not a good idea only because someone invented
something?

Right, not everything is a good idea only because it was invented.
However, the idea to protect the "system" part of computers
during daily work, as opposed to the "user" part, is a good one
in my opinion. Every single modern operating system is based
on it - with WinXP it was just not so obvious for end-users and
it is actually suitable to blame Microsoft for that policy.

and what is the purpose of an admin account?
Limited User is one thing, an admin account something else.

I agree that the Vista UAC implementation is a somewhat
curious compromise.

Ok, i know you can turn UAC off...


Regards
-Stefan







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