Re: vista pia

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In my opinion the trouble Vista causes is much bigger than the security
it creates - if at all - i doubt that it will stop any viruses, malware
or whatever. This people will always find a way around it - while
the normal user has to fight with UAC and other messy things.

And of course it is sometimes necessary to write into the program files
(or to change a file - whatever) - folder and most of all : it is my
folder on my PC.

We used for minor releases small updates - a zip which only needed to
be unzipped in the program folder. This doesn't work so easy now
anymore.
I tried it as an admin: i replaced an report file. The program was
still using the old one. It worked only when i copied the report file
into this folder with a file manager where the program had admin rights.
All this is a number too big for a lot of users.
So do i have to make now a complete setup only because of one or two
files?

I use computers since MS-Dos and i didn't need this kind of cleverness
to handle my PC, i think i wouldn't need it now.

Yours
Michael



Paul Pedersen wrote:


Besides, wouldn't they have to have an Administrator password to run
an installer? So now every user has to know an Administrator
password! Yeah, that sure sounds secure. I wonder why MS never
thought of that?



"Edhy Rijo" <erijo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:eVxiLEeNIHA.5360@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Hi Paul,

I have always install all my application in the following folders:

X:\MyCompanyName\MyApplicationName

Where X: could be any drive in the computer. I have never had any
problem with that schema, no even virus or malware and since I have
several applications, it make it very easy for the customer to just
backup all folders within my CompanyName folder, and I do have
several applications running on Vista.

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Edhy

"Paul Pedersen" <nospam@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:%23V1rO1dNIHA.3940@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Among those
ways, is there one that will allow a fast and silent upgrade to
several users at once, like I had before?


Suppose I turn the app that gets downloaded from the file server
into an app instead of an exe. Will that solve the security
problem?




"Craig Berntson" <craig@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:C942ED6C-91D0-4F6C-AC7B-661C2735DC5E@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> It opens a potential security hole where malware could attach
itself to > your EXE.
>
> There are ways to work with the Vista security model that, IMO,
should be > followed.
>
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>
> Craig Berntson
> Microsoft MVP
>
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> "Paul Pedersen" <nospam@xxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:%23qGOgWdNIHA.2376@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Like many other developers of multi-user applications, I often
use an >> application upgrade model in which an updated version
of the app is >> downloaded from the file server. Makes it very
easy to upgrade several >> users. Mostly, they don't even know it
happened. >>
>> Now MS in its wisdom, has broken that method, and starting
with Vista we >> can no longer write anything to Program Files.
(I don't like that change >> at all, but they didn't ask for my
opinion.) >>
>> What's wrong with installing my app outside of Program Files,
say in its >> own directory under the root directory? Offhand, it
sounds to me like a >> simple and workable solution. After all,
there are already some >> commercial apps that do that, stay away
from Program Files altogether. >>
>> Is that a bad idea? What could go wrong?
>>
>>
>



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