Re: Future of VFP (yet again)

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Have you used 10XE? Does it have any performance or concurrent connection
limits? And is it as DBA intensive as higher end Oracle DBs? One reason we
don't use Oracle is that we don't want to hire a bunch of DBAs. We can use
MSSQL server with a fraction of the DBAs that the same Oracle DBs take.

"tony miller" <tony_becky_mikey@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:_%ujf.2088$w74.764@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Folks,
> I am gonna jump in here with teh tool that we have looked at and are
> using at this time.. It is an Oracle product, so all the microsofties can
> leave now...
>
> kay, they leaft.. It is call HTML-DB.. The product RUNS in the database!!
> It provides an very nice development enviroment and rather tight
> application for browser based applications..
>
> Yes, you ned either a copy of Oracle 9i R3 or 10g, or... YOu can get the
> latest version of Oracle 10 XE, for FREE!!
>
> So the cost factor for "Mom & Pop" shops to run Oracle applications just
> went down..
>
>
> "Brett Wickard" <brettwickard@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:eA3LeCF9FHA.4084@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>I totally agree. I hated .NET when I first started with it, but after
>>using it for awhile, I think it is a way more productive tool and starting
>>with the new VS2005 it's more productive IMO than VFP even for desktop
>>database apps. Has anybody who started with FP/VFP/etc. and subsequently
>>used .NET extensively (i.e. at least two decent sized projects) still
>>think that VFP is the best tool for a lot of db apps? I used to, but no
>>longer.... It's still a fine tool, and I still upgrade/add-on to current
>>projects, but .NET 2.0 (VS2005) is really killer.
>>
>>
>> "gerry" <germ@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:eLhLFhE9FHA.1148@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>I used to think the same way, until I actually dug in and started doing
>>>some
>>> serious .net development.
>>> I can't honestly think of anything significant that could be done in 25%
>>> less time using VFP than using .NET.
>>> In fact I would say it is much more than 25% skewed in the opposite
>>> direction.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Matthew L Reed" <nousenetspam at dead ice dot us> wrote in message
>>> news:udXUY3D9FHA.3416@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>
>>>> "gerry" <germ@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>> news:uHkZTy58FHA.3880@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> > "Matthew Reed" <matty don't send me any freaking spam at zootal dot
>>>> > com
>>>> > remove the don't send me any freaking spam> wrote in message
>>>> > news:%23pN2Ier8FHA.3200@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> >>
>>>> > <...>
>>>> >> What I have not yet
>>>> >> figured out is what the small mom and pop shop is going to use when
>>>> >> VFP
>>>> >> is
>>>> >> gone? Why spend several times as much money to do something in dot
>>>> >> net
>>>> > when
>>>> >> you can do it for a fraction of the cost in VFP? On the one hand, I
>>>> >> can
>>>> >> undercut a dot net system with a VFP system easily provided the
>>>> > requirements
>>>> >> of the system can be met with VFP.
>>>> >
>>>> > Its pretty hard to undercut the price of Visual Studio 2005 Express +
>>> SQL
>>>> > Server 2005 Express - they're free !
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> We aren't talking about the price of the development tool, we are
>>>> talking
>>>> about the cost of develoment. If I can do something in VFP 25% faster
>>>> then
>>>> in Visual Studio 2005 Express + SQL Server 2005 Express, then it
>>>> doesn't
>>>> matter whether or not it is free. The cost of the development tool is
>>> seldom
>>>> an issue.
>>>>
>>>> Or, look it at this way. Get a free tool, pay $35,000 for your app to
>>>> be
>>>> devloped. Pay $650 (or so) for VFP, pay $25,000 for your app to be
>>> devloped.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>


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