Re: Using vfoledb with webservices?

From: Kenneth P (KennethP_at_discussions.microsoft.com)
Date: 10/27/04


Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 14:55:03 -0700

Good news,

Ahhhh.....

Now I can concentrate myself on giving the various web hotel that want a
test database with some .aspx script for testing purpose.

Do you think I can deploy the database in c:\program\Microsoft Visual Foxpro
7\samples\data directory?

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/?url=/library/en-us/dnfoxgen7/html/usingaspnetwithvfp7.asp

On this page there is an asp.net sample

Example 1: Accessing Visual FoxPro Data Using OLE DB

that shows a Customer List page (VFPOLED.aspx) but the code from the form is
missing in the article, can't find a download on it either.

/Kenneth P

"Anders Altberg" wrote:

> Hi Kenneth
> The 'end users' here are not the 'end users' of you application. These 'end
> users' are developers. Two or more developers cannot share one licensed copy
> of VFP or VFPOLEDB for development purposes. As the EULA also states you may
> distribute appklications you make (but not made to look like versions of
> Access!) including the VFP runtime and VFPOLEDB. These applications are
> licence-free as far as Micrsoft is concerned. Thus, a single copy of you
> application made in VFP, running on a server, may have a hundred concurrent
> users. ASP.NET applications can be distributed on these terms too. Including
> a VFP database and the drivers needed.
> Take it from me.
> -Anders
>
>
>
> "Kenneth P" <KennethP@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:ABCDE911-001C-404B-A75D-20650B998193@microsoft.com...
> > Hi again
> >
> > > However only MS legal persons can be directly quoted in matters of EULA
> > > interpretation. It's their domain.
> >
> > I downloaded vfpoledb.exe myself and began installing it, read the EULA on
> > it and found some points that disappoint me:
> >
> > 1.1 General License Grant. Microsoft grants to you as an individual, a
> > personal, nonexclusive license to make and use copies of the Software for
> the
> > purposes of designing, developing, and testing your software product(s),
> > provided that you are the only individual using the Software.
> > 1.2 Documentation. You may make and use an unlimited number of copies of
> > any documentation, provided that such copies shall be used only for
> personal
> > purposes and are not to be republished or distributed (either in hard copy
> or
> > electronic form) beyond your premises.
> > 1.3 Storage/Network Use. You may also store or install a copy of the
> > Software on a storage device, such as a network server, used only to
> install
> > or run the Software on computers used by a licensed end user in accordance
> > with Section 1.1. A single license for the Software may not be shared or
> > used concurrently by other end users.
> >
> > And I've contacted about 100 web hotels and have been offered quite a few
> > sites with VFP databases.
> >
> > Puh.......
> >
> > As I remember Microsft has earlier said that if you own a license to VFP 7
> > or later then you can use the vfpoledb in commercial use as a
> runtimelicency.
> >
> > What does the EULA say about MSDE? Can you distribute that to customers
> that
> > use it in Intranet apps?
> >
> > Kenneth P
> >
> >
> > "Anders Altberg" wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Kenneth
> > > I asked a Fox person about a scenario of providing a Web Service with
> > > ASP.NET + VFPOLEDB + VFP database. The answer was in short "of course".
> > > However only MS legal persons can be directly quoted in matters of EULA
> > > interpretation. It's their domain.
> > > Have you got a transcript you can mail med of the exchange between
> person
> > > 'B' and person 'A'.
> > > -Anders
> > > MS VFP MVP
> > >
> > >
> > > "Kenneth" <Kenneth@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > news:56ADD8BC-6434-452D-AABE-39985C3143CE@microsoft.com...
> > > > Many thanks from you Anders for now.
> > > >
> > > > /Kenneth
> > > >
> > > > "Anders Altberg" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Kenneth
> > > > > Since version 7, Visual FoxPro is fully equipped to provide Web
> > > Services,
> > > > > data engine, data storage and the Web interface in a COM server.
> That
> > > > > solution doesn't require VFPOLEDB as the COM server can talk handle
> > > VFP's
> > > > > data natively.
> > > > > If you want to write a .ASP.NET Web Service instead and use VFPOLEDB
> and
> > > > > data in VFP tables as the data provider, that should it seems to me
> be
> > > just
> > > > > as legitimate.
> > > > > I'll enquire.
> > > > > -Anders
> > > > >
> > > > > "Kenneth" <Kenneth@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:1EC33394-4A21-4B25-9681-4E89B091E89F@microsoft.com...
> > > > > > Anders,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > One person in the webhostel (Mr A) told me he had to check with
> > > Microsoft
> > > > > > whether they could install the VFPOLEDB.DLL and then he phoned him
> (Mr
> > > B)
> > > > > who
> > > > > > I don't know the name on. Mr A said to me that Mr B had told him
> that
> > > the
> > > > > > webhostel is not allowed to install this driver on one of their
> > > windows
> > > > > web
> > > > > > servers. That's that.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > /Kenneth
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Anders Altberg" wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi again Kenneth
> > > > > > > If you search the MSDN Library DVD there are 97 hits for the
> > > kewords:
> > > > > > > "web service" foxpro
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > What exactly is it that isn't possible in the opinion of MS
> Sweden?
> > > > > > > -Anders
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "Kenneth" <Kenneth@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > > news:4EF6969B-CC3A-401E-8B01-E1C41C4C2A3B@microsoft.com...
> > > > > > > > Hej Anders,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Jag mejlade med dig för en tid sedan då jag undrade om jag
> skulle
> > > > > starta
> > > > > > > med
> > > > > > > > VF7 efter att jag jobbat med dBase 5.6.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Anyhow, I tried to get a wellknown swedish webhostel to accept
> and
> > > > > install
> > > > > > > > the VFPOLEDB.DLL aside from their old vfox.dll which they
> claimed
> > > > > would
> > > > > > > work
> > > > > > > > and they phoned Microsoft in Sweden who told them that it's
> not
> > > > > possible
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > do so.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > But now it is, isnt it?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > /Kenneth
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "Anders Altberg" wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > VFPOLEDB.DLL is a free download, just like MDAC.
> > > > > > > > > -Anders
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > "Kenneth" <Kenneth@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> message
> > > > > > > > > news:618E264D-91F7-4074-957F-C887542AF4CA@microsoft.com...
> > > > > > > > > > Hello Eric,
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > The main question was if I can use vfoledb provider and vf
> > > tables
> > > > > as a
> > > > > > > > > > commercial webservice instead of Access and mdac 2.6?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > In which EULA can I read that? Visual Foxpro 7 or?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > /Kenneth
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > "Eric den Doop" wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Hello, Kenneth!
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I have no legal expertise, so my advise is to read the
> EULA
> > > and
> > > > > > > contact
> > > > > > > > > your
> > > > > > > > > > > lawyer if you need more help. I just read the EULA
> myself
> > > (it's
> > > > > > > shown
> > > > > > > > > during
> > > > > > > > > > > setup) and didn't see anything that says that you can't
> use
> > > the
> > > > > > > OLEDB
> > > > > > > > > > > provider if you don't own a license of VFP.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=0f43eb58-7a94-4ae1-a59e-965869cb3bc9&displaylang=en
> > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > > Eric den Doop
> > > > > > > > > > > www.foxite.com - The Home Of The Visual FoxPro Experts -
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