Re: Swapping email accounts

I realize that this client is violating just about every "best practices"
rule, but the simple fact is that this is the way they want to run things,
even when I've explained the possible repercussions..

I know that there's a way to do what they want, simply because their former
support providers have done it on more than one occassion. I'm just looking
for how to do it myself, since I'd like to continue supporting them as well.

I'd bet that if I can't come up with a way to do this, I'll be one of their
former support providers too.

So, back to the original question, is there a way to disassociate the
mailbox from the AE logon account, and then reassociate it with a different
AE logon account.

I don't mean to throw gasoline on a fire, but it's a trivial thing to do in
GroupWise. I hope that it's also easy to do in Exchange 2000.

Mark


"Lanwench [MVP - Exchange]"
<lanwench@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>
>
> In news:e2DkcctlFHA.1416@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx,
> Mark Levy <Mark@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> typed:
> > I'm sorry, I guess I didn't make myself clear on this.
> >
> > It's not exactly that the user is getting the "wrong email account,"
> > at least to someone who knows something about computers. You would
> > expect that if two people logon to the same computer, using the same
> > credentials, they would get the exact same profile, email, etc...
> > That's what's going on here. They seem to expect that when John sits
> > down at Mary's computer, and logs on with Mary's credentials that
> > since the person is John, he would get his own environment.
>
> Pardon my jumping in - but the sad fact is, they need to learn use their
own
> logins. Nobody needs to know anyone else's password.
>
> Sorry, I
> > guess the sarcasm of the "surprise" didn't come through.
>
> Nope - but I get it now.
>
>
> >
> > The systems "remember" the last person to logon to each computer.
>
> Well, it doesn't have to - in Group Policy I like to set it up so that the
> last login name is not displayed.
> >
> > Right now, JDoe sits down at computer1 and does a <Ctrl><Alt><Del>.
> > He does not type in his user name, which is User1, since the computer
> > "remembers" it. He only has to enter the password. He has his email
> > when he brings up Outlook. Same situation at computer2 with MSmith.
>
> Make sure they have passwords nobody else knows.
> >
> > What the company wants is for MSmith to sit down at computer1, and
> > have her continue to logon as User1, where she only has to enter her
> > password, and when she opens Outlook, it brings up her email. Of
> > course, the simplest thing would be to have her logon as User2, and
> > computer1 would then "remember" User2 as the default user for the
> > next time the <Ctrl><Alt><Del> is pressed.
>
> Not really....what the company needs to deal with is that users need their
> own logins and passwords and need to know how to use them.
> >
> > I realize that I will need to deal with the Outlook profiles, but I
> > don't think that roaming profiles would help here, as the same AD
> > account would always be used to logon to any specific computer.
>
> Right...
> >
> > The problem is that the client does NOT want to do that...
>
> Explain to them that their option is to either let all users have rights
to
> all mailboxes and set up profiles for each user that open all other
> mailboxes or prompt for same, or do the simple thing and train the users
> that Mary is Mary and John is John and never the twain shall meet.
> Seriously, this isn't rocket science - I'm sure you know that, but the
> client doesn't. Explain that there is no relationship between the computer
> and the login - they may not get it. Explain that while John and Mary can
> use the same Citibank ATM, they each have their own cards and own
PINs....or
> so one would hope!
>
>
> > They want
> > the AD account User1 to always logon to Computer1, User2 to logon to
> > Computer2, etc, no matter who's been assigned to that computer, and
> > they want that specific person's email account to come up.
> >
> > I hope I've made my problem a bit more clear.
>
> You have, but the issue remains....this is a training issue. I don't see
how
> you can resolve it with technology. I suggest you see whether you can
remove
> the l'ast user login' display via policy and that may help....also, they
> need to take a good look at their password policies if John and Mary
always
> know each others' passwords, and they're identical...this is Not Good.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Mark
>
> Best of luck with this.... I can feel your pain.
>
> >
> > "Mark Arnold [MVP]" <mark@xxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> > news:sttse1ho8aj8uq8oatgptn3m2tvcv5l0jd@xxxxxxxxxx
> >> On Mon, 1 Aug 2005 12:50:56 -0500, "Mark Levy"
> >> <Mark@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi all,
> >>>
> >>> I've got a client who insists on doing some thing the really hard
> >>> way.
> >>>
> >>> My client has all their users logon to the domain as User1, User2,
> >>> User3, etc... But each user's email address and mailbox is their
> >>> first initial, last name: JDoe@xxxxxxxxxxx, MSmith@xxxxxxxxxxx,
> >>> etc. Now, here's the problem. The company has decided that User1,
> >>> JDoe, needs to swap computers with User2, MSmith. Now that they've
> >>> done that, they find that when User1 logs on to User2's former
> >>> computer, User1 gets MSmith's email, and when User2 logs on to
> >>> User1's old computer User2 get's JDoe's email. Big surprise, right?
> >>
> >> yes, a big surprise. The profiles will need to be created, once, for
> >> User1 on User2's machine, but you shouldn't get the wrong mail by
> >> default.
> >>>
> >>> Of course, the simple thing to do would have JDoe continue logging
> >>> on as User1 on this "new" computer, and have MSmith logon as User2
> >>> on her new computer... But that would be too simple. What they
> >>> want is to keep the User ID associated with the computer, so anyone
> >>> logging on the that first computer would always logon as User1...
> >>>
> >>> So, what I would like to know is how one goes about "swapping" email
> >>> accounts, so that MSmith can logon to the first computer as User1,
> >>> but get her email, and the same thing with JDoe, when he logs on as
> >>> User2...
> >>>
> >>> I guess what I'm asking is, "is there a way to disassociate a
> >>> mailbox from the AD account, then reassociate it with a different
> >>> one?"
> >>
> >> I don't think you need to do that?
> >> Check up on profiles (possibly even roaming ones) for the users so
> >> that they can log onto any computer as any user they want (or are
> >> entitled to) and get the email they had on the machine they just
> >> walked away from.
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Thanks in advance,
> >>>
> >>> Mark
>
>


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