Re: advice on growing from 1 to 2 servers
From: Neil Jarman (neil_at_tNOiSPAMvPLEASEy.co.uk)
Date: 08/16/04
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Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2004 17:48:50 +0100
Mark - thanks for all your comments.
NEIL
"Mark Arnold [MVP]" <mark@mvps.org> wrote in message
news:tsi1i05lqg48fa7n686tg145fgtellte93@4ax.com...
> Never say never but you with a good wind you could have 8GB of mail
> back within a couple of hours from bare hardware.
> If your pocket won't stretch to a cluster and a good tech resource to
> sit on that cluster 24/7 then you probably won't worry about a small
> outage should the worst happen.
>
> If, by your last sentence you were looking at redundancy in this new
> server then I have to disabuse you of the idea right now. Your pocket
> doesn't run to redundancy on Exchange and you don't get it out of the
> box.
>
>
> "Neil Jarman" <neil@tNOiSPAMvPLEASEy.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >OK,
> >
> >Many thanks - will read the doc through.
> >
> >Matter of fact, mail is total around 8 Gig, so much lower than 1Gb pu.
> >
> >So are you saying there is no benefiit in creating any kind of
redundancy?
> >
> >Neil
> >
> >
> >"Mark Arnold [MVP]" <mark@mvps.org> wrote in message
> >news:cj41i09bt8gn1kd7tbfp0pv8esljra4rd6@4ax.com...
> >> Right then, here we go.
> >> 35 users equaly one server, unless they've all got mailboxes of a gig
> >> each, or more.
> >> So, to move from one mail server to another you can follow this.
> >>
>
>http://www.swinc.com/resources/exchange/faq_db.asp?status=questions&faqID=1
001&faqname=Exchange%202000§ionID=1024§ionName=Exchange%202000%20Mov
e%20Server%20Method
> >> It will bring the new one on line, do the migration and then go
> >> through the steps to decomisison the first.
> >>
> >> SBS is optimised specifically for a lot of features, Exchange, SQL and
> >> even ISA on one box.
> >>
> >> If you are strapped for cash (who isn't?) then you might want to look
> >> at SBS as it's a good solution for a few users who need a lot of
> >> stuff. You will have some migration challenges mail-wise but the SBS
> >> newsgroups and sites have a number of set procedures that skirt around
> >> what is and isn't strictly supported, but neatly achieve a migration.
> >>
> >> There is nothing to stop you co-hosting Exchange and SQL on this new
> >> box, just make sure you pay attention to the memory and perhaps set
> >> fixed limits in SQL. You would then be free to use the old Exchange
> >> box as a print server, file server, isa server, whatever.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "Neil Jarman" <neil@tNOiSPAMvPLEASEy.co.uk> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Hi Mark,
> >> >
> >> >woops! slapped wrist?
> >> >
> >> >My main concern is that I have 35 users all hanging off one server -
> >which
> >> >is (by today's standards) fairly slow (1GHz) and almost audibly groans
at
> >> >certain times of the day.
> >> >
> >> >I am interested in possibly sharing the load, if not for files, then
for
> >> >other overhead, and the mail just sprung to mind!
> >> >
> >> >The primary reason for buying was that I am to develop a company wide
CRM
> >> >type database, so that's why I needed SQLserver, I just put the second
> >exch
> >> >on the list rather that try to get more money later (always a trauma
in
> >the
> >> >poor arts)
> >> >
> >> >I am totally open to ideas and criticisms.
> >> >
> >> >BTW, I hear what you say re exch & sql, but how do you explain SBS,
which
> >> >does just that (ie server, exch & sql) all on the same box?
> >> >
> >> >thanks for the quick response,
> >> >
> >> >regards,
> >> >
> >> >NEIL
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >"Mark Arnold [MVP]" <mark@mvps.org> wrote in message
> >> >news:oa21i0pf78sv8092b45eitmp72u63b93dn@4ax.com...
> >> >> "Neil Jarman" <neil@tNOiSPAMvPLEASEy.co.uk> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >Hi all,
> >> >> >
> >> >> >We have a W2kAS box, two years old, also running ex svr 2000.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Have saved up enough buget to buy a second server, and licences for
> >all
> >> >> >above plus sql svr.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >I wonder what implications there are for joining the two together.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >In particular, do i need a second nic in each for servers to talk,
or
> >> >just
> >> >> >connect 2nd server to lan in same way as 1st one?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Also, any issues with domain I need to know about.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Lastly (probably not) what about exchange, and what possibilities
are
> >> >there?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >realise this is whole book's worth, but any help / hints
appreciated.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >NEIL
> >> >> >
> >> >> What is it you want to do with this Exchange server? Do you really
> >> >> need two servers or will all users be able to reside on one box? How
> >> >> big is this new box? Do you really want to co-host SQL and Exchange
on
> >> >> one box? (The answer to that one is no, by the way)
> >> >> As you can see, you're seriously light on detail so if you could
> >> >> re-post with a lot more information then you'll get properly
targeted
> >> >> advice.
> >> >> Me saying that you need only one nic, connected to the lan and then
to
> >> >> install Exchange on the new box is factually accurate but not the
> >> >> answer I suspect you need.
> >> >>
> >> >> Mark Arnold MCSA MCSE+M MVP,
> >> >> FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exchange.htm
> >> >> Blog: http://www.msexchange.me.uk
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >> Mark Arnold MCSA MCSE+M MVP,
> >> FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exchange.htm
> >> Blog: http://www.msexchange.me.uk
> >
>
>
> Mark Arnold MCSA MCSE+M MVP,
> FAQ: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exchange.htm
> Blog: http://www.msexchange.me.uk
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