Re: 9GB of exchange logs in MDBDATA folder.
From: bblackwell (bblackwell_at_discussions.microsoft.com)
Date: 09/29/04
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Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 09:15:03 -0700
Thanks for checking. I have had a bit of a setback. I don't know if I had
told you but this was a recent upgrade to the BackupExec program after they
told me 8.6 wasn't compatible with Server 2003. So, I went ahead with the
upgrade, recieved the software the next day and loaded it. I guess when you
load it at that point, without the license, It's an evaluation version. The
License came on Friday and I loaded it in. Well, they didn't send me the
Exchange Agent License to go with it and I haven't been able to back up the
store since. So, now I'm just waiting. I also have to go back and tell the
money people that I was off in my upgrade estimate by $300. Even after I
told my vendor I needed exactly what I already had licensed. That'll go over
well.
Until then I'm going to try NTBackup again.
I noticed in the logs on Friday; what was being deleted was a whole series
of log files...i.e. e00008*.log. The log files it was backing up was only 1
or 2 of the most recent files. I'm wondering if there is something there
that is only deleting the files a series at a time, assuming that it was the
last group of files written.
"Kevin Longley" wrote:
> How did you make out on Monday?
>
> "bblackwell" <bblackwell@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:ED3E8947-20AE-4DA2-8983-340F7882FECE@microsoft.com...
> > File securities seem to be OK. You've got me thinking though...I'm going
> > to
> > check the accounts that Backup Exec uses to run the backups....maybe there
> > is
> > something there.
> >
> > I've been tracking the logs now to see but I think it's only deleted the
> > earliest 10 each time. Another backup will run tonight. I'll check the
> > logs
> > on Monday.
> >
> > "Kevin Longley" wrote:
> >
> >> Stab in the dark-but could there be an ntfs security issue with the logs
> >> that won't delete? Is it always the same logs that don't delete?
> >>
> >> "bblackwell" <bblackwell@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:25F5E9F3-AA33-4E51-9E34-E857DD80B704@microsoft.com...
> >> > OK...The event viewer said the backup was successful. It showed that
> >> > it
> >> > backed up 1 log file. The (E000145D.log) latest for today. It also
> >> > showed
> >> > that a range of files were to be deleted (E0000E90.log - E000145C.log)
> >> > but
> >> > it
> >> > only deleted the earliest 10 files.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Kevin Longley" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Why would only delete 10? What did the event viewer show after the
> >> >> NTBackup?
> >> >>
> >> >> "bblackwell" <bblackwell@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:6348CF95-54A5-45B0-BE6E-D6785BAAAD90@microsoft.com...
> >> >> > Yeah well, that little gem of a phone call cost me $89. I knew as
> >> >> > soon
> >> >> > as
> >> >> > he
> >> >> > mentioned NTBackup (about 40 seconds into the conversation) I was in
> >> >> > trouble.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > NTBackup just completed and I noticed that the 1st ten log files are
> >> >> > missing...I assume deleted by NTBackup. That just leaves 1469 log
> >> >> > file
> >> >> > left.
> >> >> > Back to June of this year. So, if I run NTBackup 147 more times I
> >> >> > should
> >> >> > be
> >> >> > in good shape!
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "Kevin Longley" wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> I have never found their tech support that helpful. The last time I
> >> >> >> had
> >> >> >> an
> >> >> >> issue I ended up with a conference call between them and Microsoft.
> >> >> >> They
> >> >> >> finally admitted it was their problem but also decided not to fix
> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> issue.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> "bblackwell" <bblackwell@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> >> >> >> message
> >> >> >> news:F0A8467A-E60B-4C10-9BE9-6E4118AC2D31@microsoft.com...
> >> >> >> > Excahnge 2003 Standard and the path does match. The 224 event
> >> >> >> > had a
> >> >> >> > different range for last night.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > The path does match.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > I just got off of the phone with Veritas. They've dismissed it
> >> >> >> > as
> >> >> >> > an
> >> >> >> > Exchange problem. I've restarted the services and am trying
> >> >> >> > NTBackup
> >> >> >> > as
> >> >> >> > of
> >> >> >> > this writing.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > "Kevin Longley" wrote:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> Couple of questions:
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> What version of Exchange - Standard or Enterprise?
> >> >> >> >> Does the path referenced in event id 224 match the path where
> >> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> >> log
> >> >> >> >> file
> >> >> >> >> build up is?
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> "bblackwell" <bblackwell@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> >> >> >> >> message
> >> >> >> >> news:01EAF214-6E96-48E1-A5CE-2AAD9BB467A7@microsoft.com...
> >> >> >> >> > Now I feel like we're getting somewhere. I checked the logs
> >> >> >> >> > and
> >> >> >> >> > what I
> >> >> >> >> > found
> >> >> >> >> > was that ID 224 was calling out a range of log files, the
> >> >> >> >> > first
> >> >> >> >> > of
> >> >> >> >> > which
> >> >> >> >> > is
> >> >> >> >> > not there. I have no "E0000070.log" file on the server.
> >> >> >> >> > Here's
> >> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> >> > log...
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > Event Type: Information
> >> >> >> >> > Event Source: ESE
> >> >> >> >> > Event Category: Logging/Recovery
> >> >> >> >> > Event ID: 224
> >> >> >> >> > Date: 9/22/2004
> >> >> >> >> > Time: 11:26:39 PM
> >> >> >> >> > User: N/A
> >> >> >> >> > Computer: OPUS
> >> >> >> >> > Description:
> >> >> >> >> > Information Store (3328) First Storage Group: Deleting log
> >> >> >> >> > files
> >> >> >> >> > C:\Program
> >> >> >> >> > Files\Exchsrvr\mdbdata\E0000E70.log to C:\Program
> >> >> >> >> > Files\Exchsrvr\mdbdata\E000143E.log.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > For more information, click
> >> >> >> >> > http://www.microsoft.com/contentredirect.asp.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > Thanks....I'll check the other post too.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > "Kevin Longley" wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> I reviewed my BE logs but didn't see anything unusual from
> >> >> >> >> >> that.
> >> >> >> >> >> What
> >> >> >> >> >> is
> >> >> >> >> >> a
> >> >> >> >> >> bit disturbing is the result from your logs "Backed up 0
> >> >> >> >> >> Exchange
> >> >> >> >> >> Server
> >> >> >> >> >> log(s)". The logs have to be backed up before they will be
> >> >> >> >> >> flushed.
> >> >> >> >> >> I
> >> >> >> >> >> would
> >> >> >> >> >> suggest you review the application event log on the Exchange
> >> >> >> >> >> Server
> >> >> >> >> >> for
> >> >> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> >> >> following and then report back what you find:
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> Event id's 210, 220, 223 (backup of log files), 224 (deletion
> >> >> >> >> >> of
> >> >> >> >> >> log
> >> >> >> >> >> files),
> >> >> >> >> >> and 213 (successful exchange backup)
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> "bblackwell" <bblackwell@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> >> >> >> >> >> message
> >> >> >> >> >> news:63AD34A1-0833-464F-9F5E-D6D34AD62F03@microsoft.com...
> >> >> >> >> >> > Here is a copy of the backup log. Also, I ran a backup of
> >> >> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> >> >> > information
> >> >> >> >> >> > store with NTbackup before the Backup Exec last night. The
> >> >> >> >> >> > transaction
> >> >> >> >> >> > logs
> >> >> >> >> >> > are still there. Thanks for your time.....
> >> >> >> >> >> > ________________
> >> >> >> >> >> > Family Name: "Media created 9/20/2004 11:00:01 PM"
> >> >> >> >> >> > Backup of "\\OPUS\Microsoft Information Store\First Storage
> >> >> >> >> >> > Group
> >> >> >> >> >> > "
> >> >> >> >> >> > Backup set #13 on storage media #1
> >> >> >> >> >> > Backup set description: ""
> >> >> >> >> >> > Backup Type: FULL - Database & Logs (flush committed logs)
> >> >> >> >> >> > Microsoft Exchange Server Agent: Started
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> > Backup started on 9/22/2004 at 11:11:11 PM.
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> > Backup Set Detail Information
> >> >> >> >> >> > Log Files
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> > Backup completed on 9/22/2004 at 11:26:42 PM.
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> > Backup Set Summary
> >> >> >> >> >> > Backed up 2 Exchange Server store(s)
> >> >> >> >> >> > Backed up 0 Exchange Server log(s)
> >> >> >> >> >> > Processed 4,702,249,774 bytes in 15 minutes and 31
> >> >> >> >> >> > seconds.
> >> >> >> >> >> > Throughput rate: 289 MB/min
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> > "Kevin Longley" wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> Can you report back what the BE logs are reporting when
> >> >> >> >> >> >> you
> >> >> >> >> >> >> backup
> >> >> >> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> >> >> >> Information Store?
> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> "bblackwell" <bblackwell@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote
> >> >> >> >> >> >> in
> >> >> >> >> >> >> message
> >> >> >> >> >> >> news:5C33B94F-75D5-4A0E-AB9E-E19CB774BD54@microsoft.com...
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > I'm using Backup Exec (9.1) with the Exchange Agent and
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > runnig
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > a
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > full
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > backup
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > nightly yet, the loags are not deleted. The Exchange
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Server
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > is
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > aware
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > the
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > backup happened. Ideas?
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> > "Peter Lawton" wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> If you're using Backup Exec with the Exchange agent
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> installed
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> on
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Exchange server and doing full backups of the public
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> and
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> private
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> stores
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> (not
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> just mailboxes) then the logs should be committed and
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> deleted
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> after
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> every
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> backup job runs.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Peter Lawton
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "Leon" <ap76_at_email.com> wrote in message
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> news:ugUG$gAlEHA.3428@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Yes we are using Veritas BackUp exec 8.6.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > "Kevin Longley" <kwlongley@cirtronics.com> wrote in
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > message
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > news:OjOVHeAlEHA.2948@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Those are transaction logs that should only be
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> removed
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> by
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> using
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> an
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Exchange
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> aware back up program. Are you backing up the
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> exchange
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> server?
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "Leon" <ap76_at_email.com> wrote in message
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> news:OVr2b2$kEHA.3356@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > At the moment the EXCHSRV\MDBDATA folder contains
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > 1,830
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > log
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > files
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > E00*****.log
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > This is eating up alot of space on the hard-drive
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > and
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > we
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > need
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > to
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > clear
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > these
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > ASAP.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Can I go ahead in clearing most of these to free
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > up
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > space
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > or
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > are
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > there
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > any
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > implications involved.
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Thanx in advance for supporting comments.
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