Re: Force user to use outlook and custom organizational form

From: hint (legend_hint_at_yahoo.com)
Date: 02/17/04 

Date: 16 Feb 2004 19:56:08 -0800

"Ken Slovak - [MVP - Outlook]" <kenslovak@mvps.org> wrote in message news:<##0ccsj8DHA.2560@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl>...
> In no particular order:
>
> You can get the server name of the Exchange server, but not with the
> OOM. You need to use CDO 1.21, EX MAPI or Redemption for that. Sig has
> a sample to show how to get the home server using a MAPI property tag
> with CDO code at www.cdolive.com/cdo5.htm
Thanks, I'll be indulging myself with the samples :)

>
> The security form can be used to grant permissions for various
> accesses to properties and methods of either the OOM or CDO 1.21. You
> can grant those permissions to various users or groups of users.
> There's an explanation of that and a list of the various other options
> you have for avoiding the security prompts and administering the
> security form at
> http://www.slipstick.com/outlook/esecup/admin.htm#autosec Just be
> aware that many organizations don't want to grant permissions that way
> because of possible security risks. Others don't want to use a 3rd
> party library like Redemption.
Sadly, our client is one of those organizations that requires very
high security. I guess using Redemption would be safer than setting
the permissions than.

>
> If you don't use custom forms any custom properties won't stay intact
> when the form is sent, plus a reply or forward opens a brand new form
> anyway. So you need to add your properties from scratch in that new
> form. One alternative would be to add the custom fields as X-headers
> in the Internet headers, but that would require code on the receiving
> end to do something with the headers and would only apply to emails
> sent over the Internet. Emails sent only within Exchange have no
> headers.
I have chose to use custom form and com addin together, I've disabled
the default reply, reply to all and forward action on the custom form,
then provide the user to 5 custom actions, reply to (non outlook),
reply to all (non outlook), reply to (outlook), reply to all (outlook)
and forward (outlook), I can't seem to get forward to work properly
when forwarding to non outlook mail clients since the custom form is
being attached and the client will always get a winmail.dat,
especially if the form is signed or encrypted.

>
> If you have some simple code that repros Outlook crashing when you do
> whatever you're doing with SMIME messages please post it and if it can
> be verified I'll report it as a bug to MS.
Thanks, the problem seemed to disappear after I restarted my machine,
must be caused by some left over memory/state. Sorry for the wrong
report.

Thanks,
Zhen

>
> --
> Ken Slovak
> [MVP - Outlook]
> http://www.slovaktech.com
> Author: Absolute Beginners Guide to Microsoft Office Outlook 2003
> Reminder Manager, Extended Reminders, Attachment Options
> http://www.slovaktech.com/products.htm
>
>
> "hint" <legend_hint@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:3eda2acc.0402122044.7f57e041@posting.google.com...
> > "Siegfried Weber" <siegfriedcw@notmail.com> wrote in message
> news:<OUjyooY8DHA.452@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl>...
> > > hint wrote:
> > > >
> > > > but how about forwarded mail? or replies? are they also zero?
> sorry..
> > > > haven't test it yet :P (thought of saving some time by asking
> instead
> > > > :P lazy me..)
> > >
> > > Heck, sorry that I was too lazy to keep those different scenarios
> in mind.
> > > item.size = 0 only on new items of course. A reply/forward will
> cause an
> > > item.size of > 0. In the case of a reply/forward you would need to
> check for
> > > more info. I'm afraid my limited knowledge of OL programming
> doesn't cut it
> > > here and I must bail :-(
> > Thanks, it's OK :) Ken has suggested to check the EntryID instead,
> :)
> > I think that should work.
> >
> > >
> > > > but what if the recipient is part of a mailing list?
> > >
> > > So, basically you are asking how to handle BCC's. The answer is:
> under no
> > > scenario, no matter if an Outlook form, COM addin, Exchange Web
> Form etc.,
> > > you can track those. Sorry for being the bad messenger.
> > I've been receiving the security dialog when trying to access some
> > fields (e.g. CC, BCC etc..), I know this is an Outlook "FEATURE" and
> > the only way to get around this is by using either "Redemption" or
> > Extended MAPI (which I have no background of), I've also read in one
> > of Microsoft's KB about an workaround to this "FEATURE" using
> > configurations on the Exchange server, but found no samples or
> details
> > on how to do it, by any chance you got some ideas? (I would like to
> > avoid using Redemption or Extended MAPI if this can be done using
> some
> > server policy)
> >
> > >
> > > > seems there is no way to cancel the event, what I did was to
> capture
> > > > the new_inspector then override the item's onopen event handler
> with
> > > > the checking code, if it fails, I cancel the open event instead.
> > > >
> > > > I think I have handle the events correctly now, but part of my
> > > > requirement was to show two custom fields to the user. I guess I
> could
> > > > use custom forms for that purpose, but I was thinking whether it
> is
> > > > possible to show some custom fields in the default form and have
> them
> > > > intact when replying or forwarding?
> > >
> > > Don't think they stay intact on reply/forward without you adding
> custom
> > > code. But I'm now running out of my knowledge...
> > >
> > > > However, when user replies to this message, the user property
> "ID" no
> > > > longer exists. In addition, the code only works for Plain
> Emails. If
> > > > oItem is a SMIME message, then the call to .add("Message")
> causes
> > > > error in outlook and the application terminates. Any ideas?
> > >
> > > Outlook should not terminate under any circumstance. This sounds
> like a
> > > severe bug you should escalate to Microsoft Support. The reason
> why it
> > > doesn't travel with a reply/forward is that Outlook doesn't do it.
> You need
> > > to handle this by yourself.
> > I've decided to combine the Com Addin approach with the custom form
> > approach, this makes life easier :)
> >
> > On side question, Is there a way to retrieve the server name or IP
> > address of the exchange server that the current user is connected
> to?
> >
> > Thank you very much, you've been such a big help :)
> >
> > best regards,
> > Zhen

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