Re: Some Help Mobile Connectivity Blackberry Enterpise Server or Windows Smartphone

I understand your dilema, do your homework but I would start at TCO (total cost of ownership) and ROI (return on investment) between both technologies. I have migrated over a dozen customers this year already from Blackberry to Exchange Server & WM5. No customer has even thought about returning to blackberry. As for world wide access issue, as long as your WM5 has internet/data service then you can sync. Its no different than the blackberry.

As for the Deleted Items not showing from the Treo to your Outlook, do you have another WM5 device to test with?

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John Oliver, Jr
MCSE, MCT, CCNA
Exchange MVP 2007
Microsoft Certified Partner


"Robert R Kircher, Jr." <rkircher@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:usmHO4RiHHA.4844@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Thanks John, this is exactly the type of info I needed. I'm leaning very heavily towards the MS solution but one of the concerns is world wide access to email. Quite honestly this is a rare need but the powers to be want it. And of course there's the "that company used blackberry why don't we" syndrome.

I'll have to look into the deleted mail not syncing. I did a quick test with my Treo 700w and it did not sync back to the server. Not sure what wrong.


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Rob
"A disturbing new study finds that studies are disturbing"



"John Oliver, Jr. [MVP]" <jcoliverjr@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:6F2ED395-9768-470D-AA9A-7270D94A749F@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Regarding the Drafts folder a Deleted Items. True, you cannot sync the Drafts folder to WM5 device but this may change in WM6. False, if you delete an Item on your WM5 device it WILL show up in your Deleted Items in your Exchange Mailbox.

As for BES, you can purchase the BES Enterprise Software but it will cost you money. For small companies, less then 15 blackberry users, there is free promotion where you get BES Server Express free with purchase of one Blackberry phone. http://www.drwireless.com/products/b_berry/BBpromo0407.pdf

Now, the pros and cons. I have used both services and find Windows Mobile with Exchange 2003 SP2 & Exchange 2007 to be the best over BES. The fact that you get both Windows Mobile and Exchange Activesync included with your phone and Exchange Software is a no brainer as it will not cost you dime. For Security, Reliability, Compatiblity, etc., Windows Mobile is my choice.

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John Oliver, Jr
MCSE, MCT, CCNA
Exchange MVP 2007
Microsoft Certified Partner


"Robert R Kircher, Jr." <rkircher@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:uZt62g5hHHA.3452@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
One other Question, With my Treo 700 I'm completely desktop independent meaning it syncs everything w/o the need to connect to a desktop at any time. The question is does the Blackberry device do the same with the BES? My users roam from desktop to desktop so the thought of plugging a device into a cradle is completely out.


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Rob
"A disturbing new study finds that studies are disturbing"



"Robert R Kircher, Jr." <rkircher@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:evVMjR5hHHA.680@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Maybe this is the wrong place to ask but I thought I'd ask the exchange admins first.

I need to find a solution for mobile phone connectivity. We want to fully synchronize calendar, contacts, task, and email with our yet to be determined mobile devices. I need this sync to be two way so if an entry is made on the phone it syncs back to exchange and if an entry is made in Outlook it syncs to the phone.

I personally use a Palm Treo 700W and with Exchange SP2 and it works fine for me but it doesn't sync the draft and deleted folders. so if I have a draft email in outlook it's not synced to my treo and if I delete an email on the phone that deleted message is not displayed in my deleted folder in outlook. Maybe this is a config issue on my end but I want to know if the BES software can sync all folders including draft and deleted.

In addition, I'm interested any other advantages or disadvantages between the two with the emphasis on the BES software.

Any help, personal comments/experiences would be greatly appreciated.
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Rob
"A disturbing new study finds that studies are disturbing"










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