Re: Anti virus/spam in mixed 2007

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Got everything working, even new mailboxes but I must be missing something.
(or 2 or 3) Can't get mail from 2003 to 2007 and back. Within 2007 it's
fine. I should read the docs again now that I have it installed. Can't
really absorb it if there is nothing to see. But it's such a nice Sunday who
wants to work?

I already have licensed Mail Security so I'll stick with it for now. I will
check out Forefront when licensing comes due, however.

Bobby

"Peter Lawton" <nobody@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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I'm relaying all my Internet email in and out through Internet facing
W2003
SMTP servers running on my ISA 2006 boxes, ORF runs on them so I can still
use greylisting, AD integration, auto whitelisting, ClamAV etc and all the
other stuff there.

I'm also using MS Forefront AV for Exchange on the new 2007 servers,
instead
of Symantec Mail Security, and I must say I prefer it - cheaper too.

There are MS notes on the shell commands on TechNet, but I find them
pretty
useless as they don't give many examples, just the command syntax. What I
really need are examples of what I'm trying to do so I can see what the
commands are supposed to look like. It's bad enough for me but my helpdesk
guys are really lost with them, they're used to nice MS GUIs, I have to
make
my own examples for them to follow and even them they mess up quite often.

Ah well, that's what you get using any MS product in production until
after
SP1 *grin*

Peter

"BJ" <bjanow@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Wow, so am I to assume that you are not greylisting or have you found
another product?

Re shell commands, they need to give out a manual and/or pdf file with
all the various options. Either that or make a decent GUI for it.

I too like the idea of an Edge server but I'll have to wait on that a
bit. Then there is the Unified Mess Server which I really want to get
going too. We are using Cisco Call Manager with Unified and I'd like to
see how they interact. A summer project I suppose.

Thanks for your help. Installing as we speak.

Bobby

"Peter Lawton" <nobody@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Hi Bobby,

Yes, we've gone live with Exchange 2007 now, moved all the mailboxes and
de-commissioned the old Exchange 2003 server.

Webmail is much better with 2007 and the transport rules feature is very
good.

The only thing I don't like about 2007 at the moment is all the stuff
missing from the GUI, it doesn't have anything about public folders for
one thing, I'm having a steep learning curve with the Shell commands :(
Also CCR isn't really useable between different sites at the moment
either, which is what I'd really like to use it for.
The other annoyance for me is that the edge transport role won't run on
32bit Windows and ISA 2006 won't run on 64bit Windows, so I can't put
them both on the same Internet facing box, so I'm relaying via W2003
SMTP without an edge server at the moment.

Looks like MS rushed it out of the door a bit early, but most of the
missing bits should be in SP1 later this year though.

Peter

"BJ" <bjanow@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Thanks Peter, that's the answer I was looking for. And Mr. P.Karsai
said 4.0 in early spring. :-) (your guess was correct). I'll probably
do the install this week. Did you move any mailboxes to Exchange 2007?
How do you like it?

Bobby


"Peter Lawton" <nobody@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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You can have the Internet email sent and received via the Exchange
2003 server, until the next version of ORF comes out (I guessed ;-)

The only thing is to make sure you don't have any Internet SMTP
connectors set up in Exchange 2007 as they always have a cost of 1
which you can't change, so Internet email will always go out via
Exchange 2007, rather than Exchange 2003, if it can. If Exchange 2007
can't send directly to the Internet it'll relay through the Exchange
2003 SMTP connector.

I'm doing something similar myself at the moment, but I'm relaying all
my Exchange 2007 Internet mail in and out via W2003 32bit SMTP relay
servers.

Peter Lawton

"BJ" <bjanow@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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No, only one is. The new version of Mail by Symantec is but the spam
filter is not. So basically the question is:

Can the Exchange 2003 server accept mail from the internet even if
Exchange 2007 is in the mix? Or does the introduction of E2k7
preclude that? My spam filter works at the "on arrival" and "before
arrival" points as with AD integration. No AD entry, no mail even
hits the server. I'm assuming I can either keep mailboxes on E2k3 or
move them to E2k7.

Bobby

"Andy David {MVP}" <adavid@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
message news:di7k235c4l4hudoquv3prdjejdddrnot8b@xxxxxxxxxx
On Sat, 21 Apr 2007 07:56:49 -0400, "BJ" <bjanow@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

I have 2 very good products in my Exchange 2003 environment that I
need to
keep until they are updated. If I install 2007 mixed environment can
I
continue to use these? I will install Hub, Mailbox, and Client
server on the
new box with no Transport server yet.

TIA

Bobby



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