Re: exchange 5.5 test lab

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Hi,

Thanks for your update.

Based on my previous testing, although in an Inter-org migrate, we need to
migrating the SID history, otherwise the migration will failed. As when we
migrate mailbox, the Exchange related attributed should be connected to the
proper account, in this procedure SID history is the key requirement to
consist AD attributes with Exchange attributes. However I'm not sure the
third-party application's mechanism, for more info please involve the
third-party support center for furtheranalysis

Hope this clarified! Have a nice day!

Best Regards,

Chace Zhang (MSFT)

Microsoft CSS Online Newsgroup Support

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| I concur...Thank you..
| I have one question.
| Is SID history a requirement when migrating NT4.0 accts to a new
| forest/domain assuming my new accts would not need access to any of the
| source resources ?
| My ONLY concern is that I need to migrate all exchange5.5 mailboxes to a
new
| forest/domain,(NT domain to a Win2003 Forest/single domain). Also I think
| this would be consider as an inter-org migration since an exchange org
| cannot span forests, Correct ?
| Hope I am not making this too difficult but perhaps my migration path
should
| be Intra-org migration or perhaps an Intra-Org since NT 4.0 is not a
forest
| therefore I will be able to join the new exchange server to the same
| exchange ORG ..
|
| Thanks once again
| "chace zhang" <v-chacez@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
| news:7RPo%23cPJHHA.2304@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
| > Hi,
| >
| > Thank you for taking time to response.
| >
| > Unfortunately, we just recommend to migrate Exchange 5.5 to Exchange
2003
| > by using the method that I mentioned. We are unable to guarantee the
third
| > party method works in your scenario, I strongly suggest you perform the
| > migration using Microsoft suggesting way. However you may learn and
| > benefit
| > from other in this froum.
| >
| > Have a nice day!
| >
| > Best Regards,
| >
| > Chace Zhang (MSFT)
| >
| > Microsoft CSS Online Newsgroup Support
| >
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| > | Subject: Re: exchange 5.5 test lab
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| > |
| > | Hello Chace,
| > | Thanks for the clarification and the excellent info..
| > | We are in the process of performing an intra-org migration however we
| > have
| > | decided not to upgrade NT PDC for numerous reasons but migrate to a
| > | pristine Win2003 environment . We have also chosen to use a third
party
| > | migration tool NetIQ to migrate all our NT accounts to win2003 . As
per
| > our
| > | environment and requirement there is no need for SID history since all
| > data
| > | (resources) will be copied to the new server via robocopy and then
| > re-acl
| > | (security translation) perform on each new resource servers . However
| > this
| > | bring up an interesting question, since we will not be using ADMT to
| > migrate
| > | our accts and SID history ,how can I get my exchange 5.5 mailbox
| > migrated
| > ?
| > | Can I assume that the following can be performed in the following
order
| > | granted we will NOT be using ADMT
| > | 1) Install and run Exdeploy tools on the new exchange 2003 server
| > | 2) Install ADC on the new exchange 2003 and configure the 3 connection
| > | agreement -recipient - public folder - and configuration
| > | 3) Install Exchange 2003
| > | 4) Move mailbox resources
| > |
| > | Thanks again
| > | "chace zhang" <v-chacez@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
| > | news:LacPKsBJHHA.2304@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
| > | > Hi,
| > | >
| > | > Thank you for posting here.
| > | >
| > | > Based on my research, When you use ADMT to migrate the user
accounts
| > in
| > | > Windows NT 4.0 domain to Windows 2003 domain, the users in Windows
| > 2003
| > | > domain will has the same name but different Security ID (SID).
| > However,
| > | > with the SID history migration, the new user will has an extra
| > attribute
| > | > SID which contains the original Windows NT 4.0 domain account SID.
| > | > Therefore, the new users in the new Windows 2003 domain can access
the
| > | > resources in the Windows NT 4.0 domain without re-added the
| > permissions
| > | > for
| > | > the new domain accounts. When you migrate mailbox by using ADC it's
| > also
| > | > connect the proper accounts through identifying the SID history. So
| > you
| > | > should migrate the account with the SID history.
| > | >
| > | > Also I want to know do you perform an inter-org migration or an
| > intra-org
| > | > migration?
| > | >
| > | > 1. If both your Exchange Servers are locating in the same Exchange
| > | > Organization (intra-org migration), you can use ADC to synchronize
the
| > | > Exchange Server 5.5 Directory Service and Exchange Server 2003 AD.
| > More
| > | > information here:
| > | >
| > | > Exchange Server 2003 Deployment Guide: Chapter 4 - Migrating from
| > Exchange
| > | > Server 5.5
| > | >
| >
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=77b6d819-c7b3-42d1-
| > | > 8fbb-fe6339ffa1ed&DisplayLang=en
| > | >
| > | > 2. If you would like to migrate between Exchange Organizations, I
| > strongly
| > | > recommend you referring to the Chapter 5 "Inter-Organizational
| > Migration"
| > | > in the Exchange Server 2003 Deployment Guide. For your reference, I
| > list
| > | > the process as the following.
| > | >
| > | > First, run ADMT to create active user accounts in Active Directory.
It
| > is
| > | > recommended that you select the option for migrating security
| > identifiers
| > | > (SIDs) so that ADMT adds the source account's SID to the new target
| > | > account's SID history attribute. You can download the Active
Directory
| > | > Migration Tool (ADMT), version 2.0 from the Microsoft Download
Center
| > | > (http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=22161)
| > | >
| > | > For more information about ADMT Tool, please refer to the following
| > | > article.
| > | >
| > | > 325851 HOW TO: Set Up ADMT for a Windows NT 4.0-to-Windows Server
2003
| > | > Migration
| > | > http://support.microsoft.com/?id=325851
| > | >
| > | > 832221 How to Configure the Active Directory Migration Tool to
Migrate
| > | > User
| > | > http://support.microsoft.com/?id=832221
| > | >
| > | > Second, we can follow Chapter 4 to run Active Directory Connector.
| > | >
| > | > At last, we need running Exchange Server Migration Wizard to migrate
| > | > Exchange mailboxes.
| > | >
| > | > Hope this helps. Please let me know the results so that I can
provide
| > | > further assistance on this problem. I am looking forward to your
| > reply.
| > | > Thanks and have a nice day!
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > Best Regards,
| > | >
| > | > Chace Zhang (MSFT)
| > | >
| > | > Microsoft CSS Online Newsgroup Support
| > | >
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| > | > | Subject: Re: exchange 5.5 test lab
| > | > | Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 22:13:31 -0500
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| > | > | Hello Andy
| > | > | thats too funny...Actually , I am thinking about upgrading to
| > exchange
| > | > 2003
| >| > | and currently working through the upgrade process but it would be
| > nice
| > | > to
| > | > | have some test data to go along with my testing.
| > | > |
| > | > | btw..After reviewing a webcast on upgrading from Ex5.5 to ex2003
it
| > | > appears
| > | > | that I need to migrate my NT accounts via ADMT with the SID
history
| > | > option
| > | > | checked, is this a requirement ? I am not a big fan of using SID
| > history
| > | > I
| > | > | prefer NOT too if I do have too..
| > | > | I'm a bit concern what would be the result when I do decommission
my
| > old
| > | > | domain , will there be SID history references and if so can SID
| > history
| > | > be
| > | > | removed ?
| > | > |
| > | > | Thanks
| > | > |
| > | > | "Andy David {MVP}" <adavid@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote
in
| > | > message
| > | > | news:j57ho29ditgt2dvqu0dg8p3iq1mhutrtb9@xxxxxxxxxx
| > | > | > On Tue, 19 Dec 2006 21:06:07 -0500, "Darren@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx"
| > | > | > <GQ@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
| > | > | >
| > | > | >>Hello Greetings,
| > | > | >>I am trying to setup an exchange 5.5 test lab enviroment. I've
| > | > installed
| > | > | >>exchange 5.5 and create a few test mailboxes however I would
like
| > to
| > | > | >>create
| > | > | >>some test e-mails .Is there any tool or resource kit utility
that
| > | > would
| > | > | >>allow creating test emails perhaps 100 or so for each test
mailbox
| > ?
| > | > | >>
| > | > | >>TIA
| > | > | >>Darren
| > | > | >>
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > | > Thinking of upgrading to 5.5 ? :)
| > | > | >
| > | > | > There were some tools
| > | > | > http://www.microsoft.com/Exchange/downloads/55/LoadSim.asp
| > | > | >
| > | > | > Mailstorm etc...
| > | > | >
| > | > | > Why 5.5.?
| > | > | >
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | >
| > |
| > |
| > |
| >
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