Re: ReW: Spam and NDR

"Robert Williams"
<RobertW@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>
>"Rich Matheisen [MVP]" <richnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>> "Robert Williams"
>> <RobertW@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> >I'm sorry, Andy, but I have to disagree with that statement. I have found it
>> >useful to accept mail for accounts that do not exist, but ONLY because we
>have
>> >lost very important e-mails because people can't spell.
>>
>> You didn't lose anything. You never accepted it. That's quite
>> different.
>
>How is it different, we still didn't get it?

It's different because you can't lose something you never had.

>> You must also have a very small number of inbound messages. If we
>> accepted messages we couldn't deliver someone would have to sort
>> through abount 1.5 million NDR's a day. That ain't gonna happen.
>
>I wouldn't expect something of that magnitude to happen either.

Nobody ever does.

>I work for a
>small company with 10 users.

The number of users you have has nothing to do with how much crap
you'll receive if someone starts blasting away at your domain with a
dictionary attack.

>We are not the only small business in the world.

I don't recall saying you were.

>I'm just portraying a scenario for other small businesses that may want other
>options.

Your opinion seems to be untested. In a pefect world you'd never have
to send a NDR. In the real world it's polite to do so. In a perfect
world there would be no spam, not e-mail worms, no viruses. Sadly,
that's not the way things are. One day you'll come to work and your
server will have fallen over after exhausting all its disk space, or
you'll find yourself confronted with thousands of messages address to
asti.spumonti@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx, bsmith@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx, etc.

Unlike school, life tests first and teaches later. After your first
test, you'll learn. :)

>> >We had a case where a client of ours was being sued because of a handicapped
>> >path of travel that wasn't built to standard. Because we are the Civil
>> >Engineering company that originally designed the path to meet ADA Standards,
>the
>> >e-mails were extremely important. One of the brilliant attorneys sending out
>> >e-mails inadvertently misspelled the e-mail address of the contact here in
>our
>> >company.
>>
>> I'm sure he also lost your postal address and telephone number.
>
>That is how he got ahold of us after the e-mail failed, but that was the day
>before the trial and gave us very little time to prepare.
>
>>
>> >Had we had that feature enabled, I (as the postmaster) would not have
>received
>> >it and been able to forward it on to the intended contact.
>>
>> Do you also visit the postoffice's deal-leter office to search for
>> misdirected postal mail? How do you manage to handle all the telephone
>> calls you don't receive becasue someone dialed the wrong number?
>
>How is this relevant to NDRs that an Exchange system creates?

It's not. It relates to your sorting through mail you never should
have accepted, trying to figure out who it was really meant for.

[ snip ]

>> No pondering necessary. It's a bad thing to do.
>>
>Still don't think so, not for a small company.

The size of your company has no relevance to the amount of junk mail
you receive.

>There is always a point where
>good outweighs bad, and vice versa. That decision is up to each individual. I
>just believe that everyone should hear facts from both side and make that
>decision themselves, not have the decision made for them. All I was doing here
>was presenting a scenario for others to look at.

Since you seem firmly convinced that yours is the ideal situation for
your company, I can only wish you luck with it.

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Rich Matheisen
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