Re: OMA vs Blackberry

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Are we talking the same service that is offered by other companies which sell
Blackberries? I know Cingular offeres a 10mb online web based account which
can be set up with multiple email accounts, where you can access mail in your
accounts, Exchange included, and send it to your Blackberry. If this is the
case, this is not an Enterprise solution. It only syncs every 15 minutes,
there is an extra fee for attachment services and there is an extra fee for
non WAP Browsing.

Frank

"Asher_N" wrote:

> "=?Utf-8?B?RnJhbmsgSGlsbA==?=" <FrankHill@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote in news:F3A349A3-D9F7-4C5C-B69D-987EC8EBE4E9@xxxxxxxxxxxxx:
>
> I got that. I have a BES in my location. One of the posters had said that
> Vodaphone offered a solution different than the standard phone company
> POPs into your account and forwards that you get without BES or the
> desktop redirector.
>
>
> > BES is something your company owns. The phone provider is irrelivent.
> > With our BES we can have any provider (Cingular, Sprint, Vodaphone
> > etc.)
> >
> > I guess to understand the above, you have to understand the service
> > topology from end-to-end: On one end, you have an excahnge server(s)
> > in this environment, you have a seperate server which has BES
> > installed. There is an account which has a MAPI profile (mailbox) In
> > your Excahnge environment. This account is given access to all
> > mailboxes. This account is used by BES to access mailboxes in your
> > Exchange environment for user's who have blackberry service. Your BES
> > server connects to the BLACKBERRY network, which transmits new mailbox
> > items to your service provider then to your handheld. The reverse is
> > true when you send information from the handheld: that is to say, that
> > an object (Task, Address, Calendar item) is added to the handheld or a
> > message is sent from the handheld this message is sent over your
> > wireless data connection, to your service provider, who sends it to
> > Blackberry, who then over-the-wire, sends it to your BES. BES then
> > uses it's MAPI profile to add items to your mailbox.
> >
> > It's pretty simple, but it's not a straight shot from your Mailbox to
> > your handheld, it goes through BES, out over the wire, to RIM,
> > wirelessly to your provider, wirelessly to your handheld... and back.
> >
> > in order to facilitate communication FROM Blackberry to your BES you
> > only need to open ONE port on your firewall FROM any of the several
> > servers at RIM/Blackberry.
> >
> > As I recall, I had to allow RIM servers to connect to my SMTP
> > front-end servers in order to wirelessly activate my handhelds, which
> > utilize an email address/password combination for activation, but this
> > is only because we do not allow anonymous connections to our front-end
> > Exchange servers, more than likely this is not the setup you would
> > have.
> >
> > I would be happy to answer any questions about BES or Exchange.
> >
> > Frank
> > Senior System administrator
> > Communications and Collaborations Technology Specialist
> > Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute
> >
> > "Asher_N" wrote:
> >
> >> "=?Utf-8?B?RnJhbmsgSGlsbA==?=" <Frank Hill@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> wrote in news:732C49F9-4444-4F7F-BD01-CADB40F99516@xxxxxxxxxxxxx:
> >>
> >> > That's an easy one...
> >> >
> >> > The access is performed by a BES server BEHIND your firewall. The
> >> > BES server communicates with the wireless network. No direct
> >> > offsite access required. Fairly ingeniuss VERY secure if done
> >> > correctly.
> >> >
> >> >:D
> >>
> >> So you are talking about the phone provider installing a BES either
> >> physically at the clients location, or 'behind' the firewall through
> >> VPN?
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Asher_N" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> "Mark Arnold [MVP]" <mark@xxxxxxxx> wrote in
> >> >> news:0belg15e2euh2d68buufv8ctrs94eb5e68@xxxxxxx:
> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>Telco solutions use POP access to your mailbox.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > No, we're talking business solutions, not micky mouse subscriber
> >> >> > solutions. Vodafone (one of the worlds biggest) offers
> >> >> > Blackberry solutions.
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> Then enlighten us poor mickey mouse subscribers on how your
> >> >> provider offers full sync with your internal mail servers without
> >> >> requiring access to those servers.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>
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