Re: Exchange Backup/Disaster Recovery!

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From: Paul Johnson (ian.dixon_at_virgin.net)
Date: 08/16/04 

Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2004 19:15:57 +0100

Thankyou for a prompt reply.

Are you saying that despite having the backup server online synching DNS and
AD through being a second DC all the time that the current server is ok,
that Active Directory on the backup machine will not be sufficient to
recover Exchange as if AD had never gone?

Kind Regards
Paul Johnson.

"Michael Abbaticchio[MVP]" <nospam@abbaticchio.com> wrote in message
news:%23Dypdv7gEHA.3676@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> The intelligent DR solutions allow you to simply insert a floppy or CD
which
> will load the tape drive drivers and initiate a complete restore. NT
backup
> will work with a little practice, but you will be well versed in
recovering
> the AD before you could recover Exchange. I believe this is all covered
in
> the Microsoft DR White Paper for Exchange.
>
> --
>
> regards,
> Michael Abbaticchio
> MVP for Exchange Server
> http://exchange.mvps.org
>
>
> "Paul Johnson" <ian.dixon@virgin.net> wrote in message
> news:O9j77r7gEHA.1972@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > Thank you once again for your reply.
> >
> > I assumed that I would not need a Data Recovery program as NTBackup is
> > able
> > to fully backup and restore
> > a seperate Exchange or DC server. This being the case if my backup
server
> > is
> > a secondary DC and a secondary DNS server and the only other part that
is
> > missing appears to be Exchange. So when you say "The main problem you
have
> > is, if disaster strikes, you will
> > have to recover everything in one shot.", I would only have to recover
> > Exchange as this server will now be the only DC and DNS server in the
> > domain.
> >
> > Is an Intelligent DR product not overkill or am I missing something or
is
> > it
> > just not possible to restore Exchange on a machine that will have the
same
> > DC data as the machine that is now inoperable?
> >
> > Kind Regards
> > Paul Johnson.
> >
> >
> > P.S. Thank you for your time.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Michael Abbaticchio[MVP]" <nospam@abbaticchio.com> wrote in message
> > news:e%23%23zk76gEHA.2916@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> >> Like I said, if your installation is a reasonable size, you may be able
> >> to
> >> use a "soup-to-nuts" Intelligent DR product. I think
> > http://www.veritas.com
> >> still has one. The main problem you have is, if disaster strikes, you
> > will
> >> have to recover everything in one shot.
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> regards,
> >> Michael Abbaticchio
> >> MVP for Exchange Server
> >> http://exchange.mvps.org
> >>
> >>
> >> "PJ" <Administrator@grosvenor-eu.com> wrote in message
> >> news:ucCHs46gEHA.3348@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> >> > Thank you kindly for your reply.
> >> >
> >> > Unfortunately we already have Exchange installed on our DC/DNS/DHCP
> > server
> >> > and thought that instead of fully rebuilding or restoring the server
> > with
> >> > regards to DC/DNS at least, I could allow it to be a second DC on the
> >> > network and a secondary DNS server thus keeping it in theory half
ready
> >> > for
> >> > taking over the duties of the first server.
> >> >
> >> > When the first server becoms inoperable and offline, after minor
> >> > configuration on the backup server and restoring Exchange on that
same
> >> > backup server from backup files/tapes.
> >> >
> >> > I had wondered if this was possible while also backing up the
> >> > neccessary
> >> > parts of the first system to do a full rebuild if possible on the
first
> >> > server.
> >> >
> >> > Thank you once again for your help.
> >> >
> >> > Kind Regards
> >> > Paul Johnson.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Michael Abbaticchio[MVP]" <nospam@abbaticchio.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:O7TLI25gEHA.3980@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> >> >> You really SHOULD add an Exchange server separate from your domain
> >> >> controller. There are some thrid party intelligent DR solutions out
> >> > there,
> >> >> but I have never really used any of them. I have found it easier to
> > just
> >> >> understand Exchange backup and restore.
> >> >>
> >> >> For a stand-alone (Member Server) Exchange server. You should be
> > backing
> >> > up
> >> >> the information store and system state as a minimum. You would
still
> >> >> have
> >> >> to reinstall the server, but you would have the necessary
information
> > to
> >> >> recover your server as far as Exchange. See the below link.
> >> >>
> >> >> Exchange 2003 Disaster Recovery White Paper
> >> >> --
> >> >>
> >> >> regards,
> >> >> Michael Abbaticchio
> >> >> MVP for Exchange Server
> >> >> http://exchange.mvps.org
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "PJ" <Administrator@grosvenor-eu.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:u8ECLl5gEHA.140@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> >> >> > Good Day All.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I have a single server that is a Domain Controller in a single
> >> >> > domain
> >> >> > environment and it also hosts an installation of Exchange 2000 and
> > DNS.
> >> >> > This
> >> >> > server has certain data being backed up to tape.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I have been reading "Disaster Recovery for Microsoft Exchange 2000
> >> >> > Server.pdf" and have reviewed the various backup/recovery
solutions.
> > I
> >> >> > have
> >> >> > now noticed that the data being backed up does not facilitate a
> >> >> > complete
> >> >> > restore of the Exchange functionality, I am only backing up the
> >> >> > Information
> >> >> > Store and now beleive this to be only good for data salvaging.
> >> >> > Please
> >> >> > correct me if I am wrong.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > The following is an approach at creating a semi automatic offsite
> >> >> > backup
> >> >> > solution in an environment where taking backup tapes offsite does
> >> >> > not
> >> > seem
> >> >> > to be a solution (Human factor) and also a way to minimise network
> >> >> > (Exchange/Domain controller/DNS) downtime if this single machine
> > should
> >> >> > experience a critical disaster. Thus providing essentially a
backup
> >> >> > network
> >> >> > core.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Although not documented I had wondered if there exists away in
which
> >> >> > you
> >> >> > can
> >> >> > fully restore an Exchange setup on a seperate backup machine that
> >> >> > definately
> >> >> > does not have the same hardware as the original machine. I had
hoped
> > to
> >> >> > setup my backup machine "offsite" as a second domain controller
and
> >> >> > Secondary DNS server as a way of "backing up" Active Directory
> >> >> > including
> >> >> > Security Accounts and DNS data via replication/synchronisation.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I had hoped to be able to "promote" the backup machine in order to
> >> >> > maintain
> >> >> > basic network functionality at this remote location and then
restore
> >> >> > Exchange to its full functionality in some way. Either by using
> > backup
> >> >> > tapes
> >> >> > and the Disaster Recovery setup as Active Directory would be
present
> > or
> >> >> > some
> >> >> > other method. I believe that I would not be able to restore the
old
> >> >> > machines
> >> >> > "System State" on this backup machine as the hardware is different
> > and
> >> >> > Exchange stores certain information within the Registry.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I guess my question asks wether the above is feasible with regards
> >> >> > to
> >> >> > Restoring a full Exchange installation.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Thankyou for you help and any suggetions.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Kind Regards
> >> >> > Paul Johnson.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

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