Re: Prevent Viewing on worksheet

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FAT?

I threw away Fat before I threw away every copy of Windows 95 and 98 i
owned. I mean.. I was an NT user way before 98 came out so who gives a
crap about FAT??

EFS is a requirement for a LOT of companies... it should be a
requirement for every laptop anywhere... I mean seriously-- it should
be a requirement for every laptop anywhere.

MDB files??? who gives a flying *** about MDB?

MDB has been dead for 10 years now. Anybody that tells you otherwise
is an obsolete fucktard.

ADP?
you mean 'gods platform'? It's unbreakable.. and not in the Oracle
sense of the word.

SQL Security is a LOT more secure than this cheesy Excel VBA password.

Sure; with an infinite level of processing power you could brute force
into a SQL authentication box. But you can turn on CL3 auditing and /
or leave SQL authentication outside your db server

but Windows authentication you can't do a goddamn thing about.

I mean.. what are you going to do.. send a couple of bad usernames /
passwords???

guess a couple of passwords?

ADP is unbreakable security wise. That's why Microsoft should make a
flavor of Excel that keeps all the DATA inside of SQL Server.

So that nobody can get to it.

In the day and age when even _Microsoft_ had 80,000 security
'incidents' per quarter-- back in 2004 when I was doing proxy log
analysis??

it's just flat out inexcusable to use Excel for keeping ANY data.

It's not a question of whether it's ok to store email addresses and
financials.

it's not a question of 'just keeping SSN numbers in an extra-secure
domain'.

It's a matter of Excel is a THREAT to each of us.

Keeping data in a portable format-- that isn't really portable in the
first place... is absolutely inexcusable.

not a single cell in Excel should hold data.

It's too goddamn dangerous-- for securty's sake.

I mean seriously here.. how are you going to block home dude from
seeing the data in a workbook?

Will 'veryHiddenWorkbooks' even be protected if I right-click IMPORT a
spread*** into a database?

i think that there are some holes there.

the bottom line is that Excel is a security risk-- because have data
emailed around is a waste of time and energy and resource-- and because
it's a risk to email around the WORST TYPE OF DOCUMENT POSSIBLE.

I used to work for this vendor that burned a CD; handed it out at a
conference.. and that CD just happened to have an Excel Workbook on it
that had been compromised.

Norton wasn't detecting it.. so we didn't know about it before hand.

The FACT of the matter is that XLS is _IMPOSSIBLE_ to secure.

And i'd rather use paper and pen than a format that is so dangerous.







Harlan Grove wrote:
aaron.kempf@xxxxxxxxx wrote...
not if they use EFS!!!
...

How many client machines use EFS? How many server machines?

Yes, if one uses file encryption, it becomes difficult to crack (not
impossible, though it make take years to find the key).

you're completely off base.

Not given the prevalence of straight FAT and NTFS file systems in use.

it would take any idiot about 30 seconds to crack an excel vba /
project password... within reason.

it's IMPOSSIBLE to secure.

You're right about that. Excel provides no robust internal security.
OTOH, file open/file modify passwords do provide encryption, and take a
while to crack.

Databases have _REAL_ security apparatus so that you can assign a
particular group or user read access-- and then you just wouldn't grant
that access to other users.
...

What security does Access provide for MDB files?

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