Re: why>?

aaron.kempf@xxxxxxxxx wrote...
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Just because it's not mentioned on the newsgroups-- does that MEAN it's
not an option?
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Likewise, just because you say something exists doesn't mean it
actually does.

Even if VC++ can't make snapshots; the use of Microsoft Access and SNP
formats makes PDF entirely obsolete.

It's just that everyone would need Access. Not everyone even has Office
Standard or the other SKUs that omit Access, but your warped concept of
what everyone should have would require everyone to have Access.

Note that there are FREE PDF writers available for Windows, Macs (built
into OS X, free 3rd party software for older OS versions) and any
system capable of running Linux or BSD. There may even be PDF writers
for other esoteric OSs. But it's likely there's only one application
that can create SNP files (Access), it isn't free, and it only runs
under Windows. NOT PORTABLE!

it's free and the ability to export to SNP format is included in the
access runtime.

Even if the ability to create SNP files is included in Access runtime,
that only means SNP files can be created from CANNED reports in STATIC
Access applications running under the Access runtime. Access runtime on
its own won't allow any user to render any content into a SNP file, and
even this canned/static functionality would only be available under
Windows. NOT PORTABLE!

So i can create something smaller, faster and cleaner than PDF for free
on thousands of desktops.

Well, at least you're getting your numbers more accurate. Tens of
millions of Office users worldwide, but only thousands of Access or
Access runtime machines. Sounds about right.

Again; I am so sorry that your stupid company spends all their money on
Adobe Acrobat and DB2 mainframes-- it is obvious that they need to wake
up and smell the 90s.

It's about not fixing things that aren't broken. Spending big bucks
converting mainframe software handling high transaction loads into
server-based software is unnecessary when the mainframe software still
works and still generates usable database records. What's the matter,
you're not aware that there are ODBC drivers for mainframe DB2?

If you work for a company with 40+ years of mainframe transaction data
on tape reels, you learn that there are very sound reasons not to
change just to suit the fashion of the day, and certainly not on the
advice of some Access/SQL Server database grunt.

Acrobat is total friggin roadkill; the only reason that Microsoft
hasn't been able to release their artsy-fartsy products is because of
anti-trust concerns.

Antitrust concerns are REAL.

Aaron's supposed intellect is SPECULATIVE.

Microsoft dug their own hole with regard to antitrust. They deserve to
wallow in it. If they want a way out, they could always accept monopoly
price regulation. If they were as stupid as you, they'd have opted for
that.

Now that those are no longer an issue-- since everyone thinks that
Apple is strong again from sales of the iPod-- now Microsoft will
slaughter Adobe like you've never seen before.

More hot air. Did you notice that Microsoft dropped PDF writer
capabilities from Vista and Office 2007 just a month ago? Apple didn't
get where it is today just in the last 3 weeks, so your 'no longer an
issue' is only so from your own warped perspective. Microsoft just got
a $400-odd million fine from the EU last week. Maybe the US antitrust
authorities won't touch Microsoft while the current administration is
in office, but the EU and various Asian governments have begun to treat
Microsoft like the monopolist it is. They have very little freedom of
action, and they won't come close to slaughtering anyone lest the
remedy of splitting Microsoft into several different companies gets
mooted again.

But I've given up wondering whether you have a clue, so no doubt this
will be incomprehensible to you. Reality just isn't your thing.

PhotoDraw was a product that was superior to Photoshop in many ways;
and yet Adobe forced them out of the market.

How could Adobe 'force' Microsoft out of that market? The same way
Intuit has 'prevented' Microsoft Money from achieving Office-like
market share?

Anyway, I tracked down some old reviews, and while they were generally
good, they mostly ended like the one at
http://www.pcpro.co.uk/reviews/577/photodraw-2000-2.html, "although
PhotoDraw 2000 version 2 is now capable of producing good work,
CorelDRAW and Adobe Photoshop aren't yet under threat."

Looks like your opinion isn't shared by everyone. What a surprise!

Not because sales were bad or the product wasn't perfect-- Adobe forced
them out of the market for anti-trust and copyright concerns.

Not quite. A little more web searching turns up the opinion that
Microsoft targetted Corel (and Corel Draw) with PhotoDraw back at the
time that Corel was selling its own version of Linux and WordPerfect
Office for Linux and putting a lot of development effort into wine.
Part of Microsoft's bailout of Corel was motivated by the antitrust
lawsuits of the time, and one part of the deal may have been
discontinuing PhotoDraw.

So it's not at all clear that Adobe caused this. More reality intruding
on your carefully crafted world view.

Acrobat can't compete in the free market; and they can't compete
against a juggernaut.

No one can compete against a monopolist. Generally it's a bad idea to
let monopolists have markets to themselves. Back in the 1990s,
'productivity' software upgrades were under $100 for full version
upgrades, and Borland, Lotus and Microsoft all offered competitive
upgrades meaning that their competitors' products were qualifying
products for their own upgrades. Now Microsoft Office upgrade SKUs list
for over $200 a pop. Why do you suppose that is?

If Adobe has used the legal system to their own advantage, it's no
different than how Microsoft has used it to protect their IP. Business
has become hardball, and no company wins all the time.

I just think that it's hilarious that you sit there and defend PDF.

I'm not defending PDF. I use it because it's ubiquitous. My point in
these responses is to show how little you know about using software as
simple as Acrobat Reader. It may not be good software, but it's not
difficult to use . . . EXCEPT FOR YOU.

If you can walk around with your head up your *** when it comes to
Acrobat, what's to say you're not in the same state with regard to
Access and Excel? Proving your a blithering idiot in one place creates
a strong case that you're a blithering idiot in other places too. Now
you could be very capable with Access and SQL Server, but that'd just
show you're an idiot savant.

It is a fucking TSR today; and it always has been.
I have never once-- exited out of acrobat and had acrobat close.

Meaning Acrobat still appears in the Application list in Task Manager
and still appears in Windows's task bar? Or meaning Acrobat.exe or
AcroRd32.exe still appears in the Process list in Task Manager?

Why can't you answer these questions, Aaron? Are they too hard for you?

And over the 100 computers i've touched in the past 5 years-- do you
think that i've 'purposefully misconfigured acrobat' everywhere i've
been??
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You? Yep, it's possible. Your stupidity knows no bounds.

a) I have a better solution in Snapshot Viewer. better, intergrated;
and FREE.
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Try using it from Excel or Word or your Internet browser.

But until something major like that happens; I refuse to use PDF
because it's buggy, it's a security and a performance risk.
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Maybe PDFs are a security risk, but try a Google search for

+"Snapshot viewer" +vulnerability

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