Re: Hyphens in Excel Sort

From: David McRitchie (dmcritchie_at_msn.com)
Date: 10/26/04


Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 15:12:23 -0400

I don't really know where Windows provides for sorting other than
directories, and the lists similar to Outlook Express where you can
sort on From, To, Sent (timestamp), subject, ...etc...,

I can't sort anything in Notepad, for instance.

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HTH,
David McRitchie, Microsoft MVP - Excel    [site changed  Nov. 2001]
My Excel Pages:  http://www.mvps.org/dmcritchie/excel/excel.htm
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"Norm Lundquist" <NormLundquist@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:C18AEB4D-FF55-434F-A9A3-CF553601A473@microsoft.com...
> Thanks, David!  Using the "Substitute" is the only option that sounds good
> right now.
>
> As for the first part, I don't understand why it's being consistant with
> Windows.  What part of Windows sorts like that?
>
> Anyway, thanks for the reply!
>
> "David McRitchie" wrote:
>
> > Hi Norm,
> > Kind of hard to answer a rhetorical question that you already answered,
> > so I'll try for the second part.
> >
> > Sorting in Excel and ASCII  itself can be very exasperating.  As long as
> > you would not have a problem with hyphens, spaces, exclamation points
> > in the same position.   How about making a helper column and sort on it.
> >   =SUBSTITUTE(A1,"-","!")
> >
> > Or choose another character to substitute, other than apostrophe or hyphen::
> > Actually Microsoft Excel help indicates the following order, which is not
> > necessarily my experience for sorting text, in any case you already know
> > about hypen(-) and apostrophe(').
> >    0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 ' - (space) ! " # $ % & ( ) * , . / : ; ? @ [ \ ] ^ _ `
> >    { | } ~ + < = > A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z
> > -- 
> > ---
> > HTH,
> > David McRitchie, Microsoft MVP - Excel    [site changed  Nov. 2001]
> > My Excel Pages:  http://www.mvps.org/dmcritchie/excel/excel.htm
> > Search Page:        http://www.mvps.org/dmcritchie/excel/search.htm
> >
> > "Norm Lundquist" <NormLundquist@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:27F1663D-6D46-4790-A595-BC08AA7D3721@microsoft.com...
> > > Does anyone know why Microsoft would ignore hyphens and apostrophes in the
> > > sort?  The help says it was designed to be consistant with Windows.  Our
> > > company uses hyphens in certain positions of the product number, so now if we
> > > sort by product number, it ignores the hyphens and screws up the list.
> > >
> > > Any suggestions for getting around this and have a sort use the hyphens?
> >
> >
> >


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