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I wrote:
2. In the cmd.exe window, enter the following command:
telnet msnews.microsoft.com 119

3. You should get output that looks something like the following:
200 NNTP Service 6.0.3790.1830 Version: 6.0.3790.1830 Posting Allowed

FYI, my sister has the same ISP that you have, and this procedure works for her.

So, again, you should have no problem following Chip's instructions for setting up OE to access the MSnews server. "No problem", that is, with your ISP and the physical connection.

Note: I assume you are using Win XP, not Vista.


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"JoeU2004" <joeu2004@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:eZ%23yHfFMKHA.3588@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
"Dan McGarigle" <DanMcGarigle@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
There are 4 replies in this note, from least to most significant, which are -

1. I can't use the Microsoft news server because my ISP doesn't support news
groups ( i.e. they (Time Warner Road Runner) don't provide any NNTP server.
so the help at the cpearson site is no help to me.

This thread has gotten very complicated to follow. In case you missed my response to your previous posting about this.....

Same with my ISP, Comcast.

You should just try the instructions. They will probably work. Be sure to
read the section titled "Connection To Newgroups".

Your ISP does not need to support its own NNTP server. You are using the
msnews.microsoft.com server instead.

Theoretically, it is possible that Time Warner blocks connections to the
standard NNTP destination port (119) for any destination IP address (for
msnews.microsoft.com, in this case). But that is unlikely.

There is a way for you to test this.

1. On the Windows desktop toolbar, click Start, then Run. In the Open file,
type "cmd" without quotes, then click OK. That should open a cmd.exe
window.

2. In the cmd.exe window, enter the following command: telnet
msnews.microsoft.com 119

3. You should get output that looks something like the following:

200 NNTP Service 6.0.3790.1830 Version: 6.0.3790.1830 Posting Allowed

4. If you do, enter the following command: quit

That should terminate the telent command. But in any case, you can close
the cmd.exe window.

(Ironically, this might fail for another reason, and connecting to
msnews.microsoft.com through OE might work after all. But I'm betting that
TW does not restrict internet access in the ways that I can imagine they
might theoretically.)


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"Dan McGarigle" <DanMcGarigle@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:097815ED-8AD4-4411-9E84-D817082660AD@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
September 7, 2009 11:30PM PST

Dear JoeU2004
There are 4 replies in this note, from least to most significant, which are -
1. I can't use the Microsoft news server because my ISP doesn't support news
groups ( i.e. they (Time Warner Road Runner) don't provide any NNTP server.
so the help at the cpearson site is no help to me.

2. In answer to your well taken point, the formula is used to calculate the
"base-to-a-side" angle in degrees, as part of a set of formulas that
calculate the wood cut bevel cut and side-cutting angles for the sides of a
wood
pyramid of "h=height", and "a=length of a leg of the base of a pyramid", for
a pyramid of "X number of sides".
I am something of a cabinet maker and the capability to easily calculate all
the angles and lengths for a pyramid that can have any number of sides is
quite a good thing for me.
PS My use of the word "times" is indicative of a multiplication such as
(three "times" four equals twelve).

3. I got this and other formulas from the pdf at
http://pages.swcp.com/awa/images/pdf%20files/Angle.pdf
I have been referring to 'Formula # 2' in that document,
which gives the graphic representation of the equation.

4. Given n(number of sides)=6 in Cell C10,
a(length of a base leg)=2 in Cell D10,
and h(height of the pyramid)=6 in Cell E10,
then the Excel statement
=DEGREES(ATAN((2*E10)*(D10*F10))) is not giving the predicted value of 73.90
degrees and I am stumped by that.
Can you help in any way with this ?

Thanks !!
Dan


"JoeU2004" wrote:

"Dan McGarigle" <DanMcGarigle@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Can you please tell me the steps to access the Microsoft news server ?

Does the following help?

http://www.cpearson.com/excel/HintsAndTipsForNewsgroupUsers.aspx


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"Dan McGarigle" <DanMcGarigle@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:5757F8EC-31B6-4C18-9D92-E907A089A72B@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Dear JoeU2004
> I have tried to use Internet Explorer 6 to access the "you can post to > the
> MSnews server directly" by using the URL > "http://msnews.microsoft.com/";
> but I get only an error message that says "Cannot connect to the > server".
> Can you please tell me the steps to access the Microsoft news server ?
> Thanks !
> Dan
>
> "JoeU2004" wrote:
>
>> "Dan McGarigle" <DanMcGarigle@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> > How do I post a question that needs to show an equation that won't >> > be
>> > visually coherent when viewed by this text composer/viewer.
>>
>> You appear to be using the MS Discussion Groups web interface. To my
>> knowledge, you cannot post attachments. I believe you are limited to
>> text
>> in your postings.
>>
>> If you can use Outlook Express (Windows Mail in Vista) or Outlook (I
>> believe), you can post to the MSnews server directly. Then you can >> add
>> attachments. I presume the attachments, and maybe even the entire
>> posting,
>> are not visible to experts who use MSDG or Google Groups. >> (Surprisingly,
>> some do.) But I think the majority of knowledgable people access the
>> MSnews
>> server directly. There should be sufficient critical mass for you to >> get
>> some helpful responses.
>>
>> But what is it about your "equation" (formula?) that makes you think >> it
>> cannot be viewed "coherently" in a text-only article?
>>
>> Perhaps a viable alternative would be to copy-and-paste the formula >> from
>> the
>> Formula Bar, and for anything that is not "coherent" in English text,
>> perhaps you could just explain them, if they are relevant to your
>> question.
>>
>> In fact, if they are not relevant to your question, perhaps you could
>> reduce
>> your problem to a formula that __can__ be posted "coherently" in >> English
>> text without any special work.
>>
>> If you do not get any satisfactory suggestions, as a last resort, you >> can
>> send your Excel workbook to me with an explanation in email. If >> nothing
>> else, I might be able to find a way for you to post the salient
>> information
>> in a text-only article. Send the workbook to joeu2004 "at" >> hotmail.com.
>>
>> PS: Other knowledgable people in these forums know how to post
>> "attachments" to public web sites; then you can put the URL into a
>> text-only
>> posting here. One of those people might be a better choice than I to
>> help
>> you one-on-one. That's why I would consider myself a "last resort".
>>
>>
>> ----- original message -----
>>
>> "Dan McGarigle" <DanMcGarigle@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in >> message
>> news:1889D4F1-4EA9-47F9-9A3B-32CE292023F8@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > Dear Excel
>> > How do I post a question that needs to show an equation that won't >> > be
>> > visually coherent when viewed by this text composer/viewer.
>> > Can I send a .jpg that shows the equation to someone ?
>> > Thanks !
>> > Dan
>>
>>




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