Re: Excel 2007 Starts in Ready Mode

I stopped using any NAV products, they appear to hog everything and make the machine unusable for long periods. I too am using ESET Nod32 and it is working great with Vista/Office2007 and 2003. You don't know it's there except the daily pop-up saying the data files have been updated.

I also like AVG which offer a free personal use version that seemed to work well with my combination

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HTH
Nick Hodge
Microsoft MVP - Excel
Southampton, England
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"JLatham" <HelpFrom @ Jlathamsite.com.(removethis)> wrote in message news:49A16C75-0EB9-46BD-829D-254DB1BE00D3@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Well, the DSLReports site also has a 'Security' forum (where many MVPs in
Security hang out, and I mean many). They may be able to shed some light on
the Norton or A-V side of things. Thanks for providing that information.

I stopped using Symantec products years ago - they caused too many issues
for me on too many machines. For my non-Vista (Win XP Pro) systems I use
Kaspersky anti-virus. I understand their current offering (Personal 6.0)
works with Vista but have not tried it - I have a license for their Business
Optimal package and it's not Vista friendly. For my Vista machines I
initially used Avast! (free for home/personal use and pretty darned good),
but I've moved on up to Eset's NOD32, which is reputed to be one of the best
(next to Kaspersky?? <g>) in the business. I've not had any troubles on my
desktop setup using NOD32 with Vista or Office 2007.

An interesting side note in the anti-virus world is that a few months back
ZDNet out of Australia put up the results of a study they did and found that
the "top 3" A-V programs in use (top-3 by # of users) were possibly the least
secure and could be permitting as much as 80% of malware go undetected. The
reason is not that they have a bad product, but that the virus and virus
related distribution community are specifically targeting those anti-viruses
with the intent to fool and bypass them. It's kind of like viruses targeting
MSFT operating system platforms in general: when you sit on the top of the
hill, everybody is sniping at you. (
http://www.zdnet.com.au/blogs/securifythis/soa/Why_popular_antivirus_apps_do_not_work_/0,139033343,139264249,00.htm )

Some other interesting reads on quality and functionality of some of the
higher end AV products available:
http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-3513_7-5554837-1.html
http://reviews.cnet.com/Kaspersky_Anti_Virus_6/4505-3667_7-32004282.html
http://www.cnet.com.au/software/security/0,239029558,339271947,00.htm

A couple of other good security information sites are
http://www.wilderssecurity.com/
and
http://www.castlecops.com/ run by my good friend (and MSFT MVP - Security)
Paul Laudanski is just great.



"Owenotti" wrote:

Yes, the machine is scoring 3.4 but because of the processor. My video card
gets a 5.9 for the 256 NVida GeForce 6800.

I did some digging around and I found that everything worked fine until I
installed Norton Internet Security 2007. I did go to the Norton site and
downlaod the free Vista upgrade. I have to admit that Norton does work with
Vista but maybe not so well with Office 2007....or at least Excel 2007.

I found that when I disables Norton 2007, I could use Excel without it
starting in ready mode. Once I turned Norton back on, the first time I opened
Excel, it started in ready mode. Looks like Excel 2007 requests a virus scan
and then goes to ready mode. I am sure it could be many things but this is
what I found out so far. Maybe I can try the Norton 360 with better luck.

Just wanted to share my findings and wondered if anyone else had the same
problem. Since I wrote last...I reformatted the hard drive and started over.
I installed rWindows Visata Ultimate and Office 2007 and did all the updates.
Office Excel 2007 ran without any problems. I installed Norton Internet
Security 2007 last and the very first time I opened excel after that....it
started in "Ready mode..."

"JLatham" wrote:

> Ok, a Pentium M at 1.6 GHz, 1 GB RAM should handle it all fine. I'm > guessing
> that the machine probably scores in the mid-3's in the Vista > performance
> tests with lowest score probably being in the graphics area.
>
> You said that after reinstalling, things seem OK the first few times > you
> open Excel but gets inoperable after that. Have you run those Office
> Diagnostics yet? When Excel is acting poorly would be best time to do > that.
> Excel doesn't have to be open, but if you run the tests after a fresh > install
> while everything is working OK, they may not show any problems.
>
> There are several potential culprits here and I'm not sure that it's in > the
> scope or even the ability of this forum to deal with them all:
> The combination of Vista Ultimate and Office 2007 may just be > overwhelming
> the 9300 - was it a "Vista Ready" machine? Could be that one driver > for one
> piece of hardware on it is acting up: laptops often come with unique > drivers
> for some of their devices. Have you checked the Dell site for drivers > for
> the machine made specifically for Vista?
>
> You might have some hardware going bad and it's just coincidental that > it is
> showing up after the new software packages have been installed. Hard > drive
> and even memory are potential suspects in that category.
>
> One place you may be able to get some more assistance with this is at
> http://www.dslreports.com where there are a couple of strong discussion
> forums that may be of help. First, they have a general "Microsoft" > support
> forum at http://www.dslreports.com/forum/microsoft that is hosted by > two
> Windows MVPs and visited by lots of folks really strong in their > knowledge of
> the various MSFT software packages. There is also a general 'my laptop > is
> sick, please help' forum at > http://www.dslreports.com/forum/distance_all
> where if it gets into the hardware side of things, again some good > support is
> available. No account is required to ask for help there, although like > any
> site, people tend to respond to the 'member' more positively than to > the
> anonymous visitor. Accounts are free and no spam will come out of > creating
> one. I've been helping moderate that site for close to 7 yrs now and > can
> vouch for it's quality and 'honesty' (as in no spam, no revealing your
> account info to any 3rd party type honesty) - there are close to 30 > MVPs in
> various areas that call it their internet home.
>
> "Owenotti" wrote:
>
> > I have a Dell Inspiron 9300 Laptop running Windows Vista Ultimate > > 32-bit. CPU
> > is 1.60, RA, is 1GB. I have Microsoft Office Ultimate 2007 installed. > > I have
> > uninstalled Microsoft Office and reinstalled it and it will have the > > same
> > problem after opening Excel a couple of times.
> >
> > "JLatham" wrote:
> >
> > > Basically that ain't right. Excel 2007 (and all Office 2007 apps) > > > seem a
> > > little slower to me in getting off to real working condition. I > > > also notice
> > > that some apps, such as Outlook don't update their status messages > > > correctly:
> > > Outlook 2007 will put up a "preparing to send" message which > > > remains there
> > > until the send is actually completed and then you get a 'send > > > completed'
> > > message - no "sending" message in between that I've ever seen.
> > >
> > > Perhaps this is a combination of them putting up the message too > > > early and
> > > due to increased 'get going' time in general, perhaps you simply > > > have not
> > > waited long enough for it to really start. Might try (if you > > > haven't
> > > already), starting it up and actually noting the time and then wait > > > an
> > > excessively long time to see if it ever does. I'd consider 15 > > > minutes an
> > > excessively long time, since it should be up and running in well > > > under a
> > > minute on most machines, most recently made systems, it should be > > > up in under
> > > 15 seconds (takes about 3-4 seconds on this machine: AMD X2 4800+, > > > 2GB RAM).
> > >
> > > Then there's the possibility you have a corrupted installation of > > > 2007.
> > > Have you run the Office Diagnostics to see if they show any > > > problems? ...
> > > Open Excel, click the 'Office Button' in the upper left corner, > > > choose the
> > > [Excel Options] button near the lower right of the window that > > > opens, then
> > > choose [Resources] and then run the Office Diagnostics from the > > > next window.
> > >
> > > Even if Office Diagnostics shows nothing wrong, if things still > > > aren't
> > > right, might consider either a repair install (first choice) or a > > > complete
> > > uninstall followed by a reinstall of Office 2007/Excel 2007.
> > >
> > > Might be nice if this discussion continues to have some specs on > > > your
> > > computer also: CPU, RAM, Operating System (Brand and Model are > > > often helpful
> > > if this is an off-the-shelf system vs home built).
> > >
> > > "Owenotti" wrote:
> > >
> > > > When I try to open Excel 2007, Excel starts in ready mode but I > > > > cannot do
> > > > anything. I must close the program and open it several times > > > > before the
> > > > familiar Excel screen starts up.

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