Re: simple unicode question

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If you do Alt-1234 in a DOS window do you still get the Pi ?
(click Start, Run and type CMD
type CHCP to display your Codepage - mine is 850
EXIT to leave DOS)

I just tried this in XL97/SR1 and got the Pi symbol in my DOS
window...........only difference, in WinMe I had to type Command instead of
just CMD

Vaya con Dios,
Chuck, CABGx3


"Bryan Hessey" <Bryan.Hessey.26c2bm_1145150700.5156@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Chuck,

That is what I get if I do Alt-1234

However, 1234 - 1024 = 202, and the E^ appeared to be at 210, a
difference of 8 that I had not understood as 202 is a drawing
character, double line down intersecting double horizontal lines.

However Alt-0202 is a E^ and a code of that = 202

This I find strange, as row 3-15 are Alt-0 to Alt-255 entered codes,
rows 17-29 are Alt-0000 to Alt-0255 entered,
and rows 32 onwards are Alt-1000 + entered.
As you see, most of the Alt-1000 codes resemble rows 3-15, and do not
resemble the Alt-0000 range at rows 17-29.

I thought that Chars2.wks was sufficient documentation, but apparently
not.

If you do Alt-1234 in a DOS window do you still get the Pi ?
(click Start, Run and type CMD
type CHCP to display your Codepage - mine is 850
EXIT to leave DOS)

OK - I will play some more, maybe I need to start my PC, perhaps this
laptop with it's pretend numeric keypad (using 7 8 9, u i o, j k l and
m keys) is the difference, but I would doubt that.


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CLR Wrote:
I don't know what the character is called Brian, but at K13 is a upper
case
E with a miniature carrat ^ symbol above it......this is in
XL97/SR1.......and the same thing in XL2k.....and CODE(K13) returns
202

hth
Vaya con Dios,
Chuck, CABGx3




"Bryan Hessey"
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CLR,

I too run standard Arial, which displays my 'lack of' here because I
simply cannot see a Pi symbol on characters Alt-0 to Alt-1255, the
attached Word document shows a screen capture of the Alt-1000 to
Alt-1255, which are the same characters as displayed in Alt-0 to
Alt-255 range offset by 1024

(I used the screen capture so that different systems fonts would not
affect the view)

In a DOS window, the CHCP command confirms my codepage is 850, I
also
tried 437 and 852 but the Alt-1234 remained as a E+tilde character.

If you loaded my Chars2.wks, could you please select the Chars
***,
select the fonttest range, and select Arial as the font (it was set
to
Symbol to locate a Pi symbol) and confirm what character is
displayed
at K13

Thanks

Word Attachment is:

http://www.excelforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4637&d=1145138050

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CLR Wrote:
The font on both my office machine XL97/SR2 and this home machine
XL97/SR1
is the standard Ariel. As I said, at work if I enter Alt-1234 I
get
the Pi
symbol with CODE() reading 45, but, here at home by typing in
Alt-1234
I get
just a hyphen with CODE() reading 45..........also on this machine
I
have
XL2k and it returns the hyphen and CODE() 45 also.........I have
no
clue to
the mechanics of it all, just reporting what I've seen.....

Vaya con Dios,
Chuck, CABGx3

..




"Bryan Hessey"
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Hi,

Can I ask which Font you are using, as I need Alt-112 (or
Alt-0112)
with the Symbol font to produce a Pi symbol. (Windows XP, Office
2003)

I use the attached *** (Chars, is like Charmap with addresses)
to
determine which characters will be displayed for the relavant
Alt-code
for the currently selected Font, and note that where a 4 digit
code
Alt-0nnn to Alt-0255 is entered the chacters from rows 17 to 29
of
work*** Chars are displayed, whereas if Alt-nnn to Alt-255, or
a
calculated figure are used then characters from rows 3 to 15 are
displayed.

The 'calculated figure' - it seems that for any Alt-entry not in
the
Alt-0 to Alt-256 or Alt-0000 to Alt-0256 ranges that the
character
displayed is the Mod of the entered code divided by 256 (or
thereabouts). I did a partial construction of numbers Alt-1000+
and
Alt-2000+, and these seem to follow the plan.

If this is correct, then the '1' is your Alt-1234 cannot be
returned
as
it is not (as I had previously thought) a 'code', but is just a
part
of
a 'to big' code that is trimmed to the 0-255 range.

If anyone has a better understanding of the Alt-code system I
would
welcome a better explanation, however to Gary''s Student's
original
question, I have no method to determine whether the character
was
the
result of an Alt-0nnn or 'other' entry, ie, whether the display
came
from rows 3-15 or 17-29.

Bryan

Attachment is:


http://www.excelforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4634&d=1145115775

CLR Wrote:
Just a point of reference, in my Excel97, SR2......when I type
Alt-1234
in
A1, A1 displays the Pi symbol, and =CODE(A1) shows 45. If I
type
in
Alt-045, the cell displays a hyphen. If I type in a hyphen,
=CODE(A1)
shows
45 again........also, Chip's CodeView Add-in follows suite.

Vaya con Dios,
Chuck, CABGx3



"Gary''s Student" wrote:

What is the function to return the code associated with a
unicode
symbol? If
I enter ALT-1234 in cell (say A1), I get a pi-type symbol:

â.¥

However CODE(A1) returns a 63. How can I get the 1234 back?
--
Gary''s Student




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