Re: BIMDAS - Order of Calculation

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From: Ken Russell (kenrussellmyhat_at_optushome.com.au)
Date: 02/22/05


Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 18:04:09 +1100

Doesn't -(x^2) satisfy -9?

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"Atreides" <atreides1AThotmailD0Tcom> wrote in message 
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> But then Ken, what reason would one have for writing:
>
> -x^2
>
> if it really simplifies down to -x * -x = x^2?
>
> How would one write the opposite of the square of x?
>
> Cheers,
> Peter
>
>
> "Ken Russell" wrote:
>
>> -3^2 is the same as -3*-3 which equals 9 not -9
>>
>> At least that's what I was taught over 60 years ago.
>>
>> -- 
>> Ken Russell
>>
>> kenrussellyourhat@optushome.com.au
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>> ..
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>> "Atreides" <atreides1AThotmailD0Tcom> wrote in message
>> news:C60BB320-A11E-4E81-87E3-52C3C407ED18@microsoft.com...
>> > I've recently noticed that Excel flies in the face of standard 
>> > scientific,
>> > mathematical and engineering convention in the calculation of powers 
>> > for
>> > numbers that are then multiplied by a negative.
>> >
>> > The convention of mathematics, "BIMDAS" (or similar acronyms), states 
>> > that
>> > _I_ndices (or powers, or exponents), should be calculated before
>> > _M_ultiplication. Because of this, the following is accepted as 
>> > correct:
>> >
>> > -3^2  =  -9.
>> >
>> > This is because it is the equivalent of (-1) * 3^2 = -1 * 9 = -9
>> >
>> > However, Excel chooses to recognise this as (-3)^2 = 9.
>> >
>> > This error is particularly problematic when doing algebraic 
>> > computations
>> > in
>> > such a tool as Mathematica and then copying the result into Excel in 
>> > input
>> > form. That is,
>> >
>> >       -x^2        ->                         -A1^2
>> > ->     -A1^2
>> > (Mathematica)    (Mathematica with reference substituted) 
>> > (Excel)
>> >
>> > To correct the error, one must manually change it to:  -(A1^2)
>> >
>> > QUESTIONS
>> > 1: Why does Excel have this convention!
>> > 2: Is there any way to change it/make is more convenient?
>> >
>> > I've only recently noticed this (which is quite scary to think how many
>> > errors I may have made in the past!)
>> >
>> > Thanks for your time,
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> > Peter
>>
>>
>> 


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