Re: The infamous R6025 runtime error

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From: Peter van der Goes (p_vandergoes_at_toadstool.u)
Date: 02/05/05

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    "Antti Keskinen" <antti.keskinen@REMOVEME.ee.tpu.fi> wrote in message
    news:%23%23gXXN2CFHA.2032@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
    > Hello !
    >
    >> Please excuse my incredulity, but if you have a problem that occurs only
    >> when a certain software product is installed and the problem does not
    >> occur when that product is not installed, how do you conclude that the
    >> problem is somehow associated with a different product? I may be off base
    >> here, but I believe a module hooked to devenv could throw an error that
    >> devenv was not programmed to handle. thus causing the error report you
    >> mentioned.
    >
    > Due to the Visual Assist Team. After doing two weeks of intense debugging,
    > sending error reports, logs and screenshots plus ways to reproduce the
    > problem, the team could not find the reason why Visual Studio crashed.
    > When the crash occurs, VA does not return any error codes or cause an
    > errorneous situation. It shuts itself down properly and correctly. The
    > crash itself occurs after VA has already closed.
    >
    > However, your amazement on the situation is understandable. VA team came
    > to the conclusion that this behaviour is caused by a DLL which both VA and
    > VS utilize and for some reason this DLL can't handle it's task. Or, this
    > is what they told me. It can, of course, be that this isn't true. I
    > couldn't know if this was the case.
    >
    >> I'm also intrigued by your assertion that you can open a source code file
    >> in Visual Studio .NET 2003 and have Visual Studio create a temporary
    >> solution around it. I would really like to take advantage of such a
    >> feature in the classroom when showing demo code. How can one access the
    >> temporary solution, compile the code and run the executable? Currently, I
    >> am creating an empty Win32 console solution, then adding the source code
    >> to the solution to show demos.
    >
    > Ahh, you've misunderstood me. You can try this situation yourself, just
    > open up Visual Studio, and then use the Open command to open a lone code
    > or header file. Now, if the solution explorer is not visible, use the View
    > menu to display it. You can see that VS created a solution called
    > 'Solution0' and placed the code file in folder 'Miscellaneous files'. It
    > does not create a project, however, thus it is not possible to compile and
    > debug/execute it. My belief is that because VA stores project-specific
    > information about variables and symbols, then a situation where you have a
    > solution but no projects causes it to misfunction. The problematic
    > situation is that if I create a blank solution manually, and add then use
    > 'Open' to open the lone file, it still creates a 'Miscellaneous files'
    > folder, but does not crash..
    >
    > UPDATE:
    >
    > After a set of long hours working with the problem, I've isolated it. I
    > didn't notice that I had Rational Rose Add-In Manager running in Visual
    > Studio IDE. Disabling this add-in from starting eliminated the problem. So
    > it seems to be an incompatiblity with VA and Rose.
    >
    > -Antti Keskinen
    >
    >
    >
    >> "Antti Keskinen" <antti.keskinen@REMOVEME.ee.tpu.fi> wrote in message
    >> news:OCJQOFsCFHA.1836@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
    >>> Hello ppl !
    >>>
    >>> Since this newsgroup is a place where Microsoft MVPs or related visit
    >>> somewhat often, could someone give me an advice with possible causes of
    >>> this error. Note that it does not happen with the programs I write, but
    >>> with Visual Studio .NET 2003 itself. It seems to appear only when I have
    >>> the Visual Assist add-in installed. Removing the add-in fixes this
    >>> error, but using VA is pretty much a necessity due to the bad
    >>> functionality of IntelliSense.
    >>>
    >>> However, extensive analysis with the VA team has revealed that this bug
    >>> is related to somewhere else than the actual VA product. The easiest way
    >>> to reproduce it is to open a lone file in Visual Studio, that is, a file
    >>> which doesn't have a solution attached to it. VS creates a temporary
    >>> solution for it, and closing this solution causes the crash. The crash
    >>> informs me that the place where this error occurs is 'devenv.exe', which
    >>> is the VS executable as far as I know.
    >>>
    >>> So, does anyone have any clue where this problem originates from ?
    >>> Looking in Internet, it seems to appear randomly on different Microsoft
    >>> products (such as Office or SharePoint), but never there is a true
    >>> explanation of the causes of this. Any and all suggestions related are
    >>> appreciated.
    >>>
    >>> -Antti Keskinen
    >>>
    >
    Thanks very much, Antti, for the update and further clarification on the
    temporary solution. I tried your steps and now see exactly what you mean.
    Glad you got the crash thing sorted.


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