Re: Re:Job interviews
From: Martin Maat (dummy_at_somewhere.nl)
Date: 02/15/04
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Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2004 16:33:55 +0100
"Edward Diener" <eddielee@tropicsoft.com> wrote in message
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> William Ryan eMVP wrote:
> I am not saying that an interviewee must not know core
> issues, and be able to respond in kind. But if your
> questions, some totally relevant while others have little
> to do with real programming knowledge in the areas
> cited, are any indication of the questions asked which
> are deemed "important", no wonder so many
> interviewees fail.
I must say, having read the original post that complained about the
applicants I agree it was pretty bad. Sure, you don't have to know Codd and
what COM stands for exactly but if you put a whole range of questions it
will soon be clear where someone has really been. At he same time it seems
odd these people are invited in the first place, if they can't answer the
basic questions they are not likely to have a credible c.v. If you invite
anyone that says "I have the experience you are asking, period" without a
matching carrier description to back it up you deserve to get smiling dudes
in suits. The employer should do homework too before inviting anyone to an
interview.
I have been working for about 10 years now and I have seen both bad and good
times. I recognize most of your frustration. When I left school, the market
was bad and if there was a job available it had to be a 25 year old with 6
years or relevant experience. No one was interested. Then it took off and I
got calls, I was hot potato, everyone wanted to make money on me just by
being the middle man and I could basicall work wherever I wanted to. If I
had an interview in those days it was like this: smiling people with
hopefull faces on the other side keeping their fingers crossed, hoping I
would be willing to come and work for them.
Today it is bad again and I get the same old attitude from when I started.
It is different in that I do have the experience now but I notice that
issues are played again that haven't been played for quite a while. The fact
is, they get so many applications, they just can't cope. The attitude
reflects that. Earlier, employers hired agencies to find people. Now they
hire agencies to hold off the mountain of applications and do the first
selection.
Another thing that works against you when you are looking for a job is that
in bad times everyone knows someone looking for a job so the jobs that are
out there are easily filled without advertising and you won't even see the
job. The ones you do see are the hard ones, either hard in qualifications or
hard because the decisionmakers just don't like anybody. Or they claim to be
looking for skills while they really want someone that is no threat to them,
someone they will be able to manage.
I have been unemployed since the beginning of this month (the company layed
off about 20 people, LIFO), I have been home since december learning ASP.NET
and C#. It takes a kind of attitude to deal with it, the first couple of
months are actually quite nice if you don't have a family breathing down
your neck. But in the long run it will effect you. It is a little easier if
you understand how it works, there's no point in blaming some interviewer or
policy although it can be frustrating at times.
Martin.
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