Re: Configuring the VB 6 to VB 2005 Converter (WAS: Re: VB 6 developers and .Net)

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I'll buy that. I'm grateful -- *really* grateful -- that I
don't have to program in COBOL any more. **REALLY** grateful.
Of course, I did COBOL on the DEC VAX, which is better
than doing it on a mainframe. Still. Did I mention how much
more I like VB than COBOL? ;-)

What I don't get is that I get these newsletters from ZDNet.
They frequently have a section about career blogs and a
banner ad from DICE.Com that mentions Java jobs and COBOL jobs,
but says nothing about .Net. I think that's odd. Can there really
be that many COBOL jobs?

Robin S.
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"Cor Ligthert [MVP]" <notmyfirstname@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Robin,

There is still very old Cobol on mainframes. That is a kind of policy from
IBM to let it be possible on there computers to work with all legancy
softwere there was. (Although in fact this in seldom true because of the
cost, it can be achieved). In my expirience IBM will advice you to go to a
visual environment using Java or C++).

But do in the case of that Cobol than not think in the cost of PC
software, just think in many multiples of million dollars/Euros just for
an enviromnent that fullfills that.

The Cobol(s) that exist on PC's has often problems when it is going to new
systems. Cobol is created when there were no intelligent workstations as
the PC, but only terminal screens. (In fact they did not even exist the
most advanced was the teletype a kind of typewritter).

"To make your anology complete, there is still COBOL and Fortran and MVS
and PL/I and Pascal
out there, too", and so is VB only in an even better way.

Cor


"RobinS" <RobinS@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> schreef in bericht
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I completely agree with you. I don't think Microsoft would be
dedicating resources to making VisualStudio6 work under Windows
Vista if they were going to desert VB6. Nor would they have
developed VB.Net if they weren't going to support it moving
forward. It's such a huge jump for VB6 programmers (myself
included), it's not far from jumping all the way to C#, and
they could have told people they had to do that, but it
would have really hurt them. They need the developers to
support them, because the availability of developers in a
certain technology *does* have an impact on the success of
that technology.

Heck, there's still COBOL and Fortran and MVS and PL/I and Pascal
out there, too. :-O

Have fun.
Robin S.
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"Michael D. Ober" <obermd.@.alum.mit.edu.nospam> wrote in message
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I knew it was baiting at the time - I just chose to yank him in the
water.

That said, the argument that VB is dead comes up every now and then by a
serious poster, which is why it deserved a response. My comments about
this are still true - MS considers VB to be a 1st class language, there
is a lot of VB 6 code that will need to be converted at some point, and
the VB 6 to VB 2005 converter sucks.

Mike.


"RobinS" <RobinS@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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You shouldn't let the guy bait you. He's obviously off his meds.

Robin S.
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"Michael D. Ober" <obermd.@.alum.mit.edu.nospam> wrote in message
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Then why does MS use VB 2005 in its technology road shows everywhere
except for the specific C# demos? As for VB 6, it's still alive and
kicking and there are a whole lot of us who have thousands of lines of
VB 6 code that may need to be converted. Personally, I have close to
250,000 lines of VB 6 code that is still in use and will someday need
to be converted. The current VB 6 to VB 2005 converters simply aren't
up to the task for this volume of code.

Mike.

"Master Programmer" <master_programmer@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Visual Basic is dead, don't waste your time.

The Grand Master














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