Re: Think BEFORE you post.

you can herd cats
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8STdOEBORp0

....lol
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"Steve Long" <Steve_Noneya@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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The basic problem is that you can't herd cats! So, all of your whining
will be for not in the end. How many newbies do you even think will read
this post? It doesn't appy to them as far as they can see, so they will
not even give it a glance. If you think a problem is too dumb to answer,
don't answer it. Move on to something more challenging.
While I agree that Google is one of my best friends, I alway google before
I come to this group simply because it's faster than waiting for answers
here. If I can't get an answer there, either because I haven't used the
correct key words or I've put it in the wrong context, I'll come here and
post and wait.
NTL, google once, google twice, google many times using different key
words before coming here I do...
And, many times, nobody else knows the answer either it seems. An example
is my post in this group from 9/26/2006 with a subject line:

"VS 2005 & list of installed products."

It happened to someone else but nobody seems to know why. What happened to
MS' promise of an answer within 48 hours? If you are an MSDN subcriber,
you're supposed to be able to reliably get help here but, probably 20%-30%
of the time, I get no answer.
The positive thing is, that when I do come to the ng's, I usually try to
answer some questions if I can, so at least I can add something back.

Steve

"Peter Proost" <pproost@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Hi,

look I didn't want to offend anyone, and I never said you should check
with
me before posting.
All I wanted to say: is that for beginning programmers it shouldn't be a
habbit to immediately post a problem if they can't solve it in 2 minutes.
And I know most of the people here first try to solve/research the
problem
themself, and if they realy can't find a answer, they post a question.
That's what they call a learning process. And in my opnion that's the
best
way to learn something new.
But every now and then you see some posts with topics from which you know
that if the OP would have taken the time to google this ng for 1 minute
he
would have found the answer. And in my opinion the ng doesn't benefit
from
these kind of posts.
So I hope my point is clear now, I sure as hell don't want to discourage
anyone from posting a question.
I also wonder why you think I'm unhappy with the ng? I think it's the
best
place for information/help on vb.net
The only thing I meant to do was give some advice to beginning
programmers,
because I know this approach helped me a lot when learning vb.net.

Greetz Peter

--
Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build
bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to
produce
bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning. (Rich Cook)


"Me" <gene1943@xxxxxxxxx> schreef in bericht
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Are you guys gonna chat on topic? Take this material to
vbdotnet.trashtalk
I don't remember reading anything about checking with peter , google,
and
the rest for
permission to post. If you are unhappy, go somewhere else. Its
attitudes
like you've
expressed that kill net activity.

Peter, you've been put on my delete list.



"Peter Proost" <pproost@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Hi, I have to agree with GhostInAK, I'm seeing more and more post with
subjects that If you google them for 15 seconds you will see that they
haven
been asked and answered 20 times before. I would also advice first try
to
find a solution yourself, because you'll learn more by searching in
answer
yourself. That's how I always did it, first try to figure/google it
out
yourself and then if you realy can't find a answer ask an expert here
in
the
ng. I'm not discouraging anyone to post here, because we were all
newbies
ones, but you'll learn a lot more be searching for an answer yourself
then
from an instant answer.
I know I haven't been very active in here for the pas few months but I
still
watch the topics every day.

Just my two cents

Greetz Peter

--
Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to
build
bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to
produce
bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning. (Rich Cook)


"GhostInAK" <ghostinak@xxxxxxxxx> schreef in bericht
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I'm seeing a terribly distubing number of questions that have no
purpose
in existing. As an example: How do I change the position of a
stream?

Hmm.. Could it be some method on the stream itsself? Probably.

My advice, pleading advice, is that you USE YOUR DAMN BRAINS before
spewing
your crap on here. Think about what you are doing. If your question
is
"How do I do X with class/object Y?" Then why not open up the Obejct
Browser
and take a look at the properties and methods of Y. Also, Google is
your
very bestest of friends when trying to FIGURE SOMETHING OUT FOR
YOURSELF.

-Boo









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