Re: Killing VB softly with his song, Killing VB softly...with a song.............

Clinton

It so happens that my business is prognostication of the Financial Markets
(ie. ProfitMax Trading Inc.). However, this ability does not carry over to
the realm of software direction. And so, knowing my skills well in the
forecasting of market price action in a field of critics, I will not be the
critic in your claims to see a 'trend' in the direction of programming but
RATHER to hope to gain some insight by asking you a simple questions:

Q. Is it your opinion based on what you perceive as the direction of
programming that learning the C language (or C++ ?) is the 'safe' approach
in order to be in the thick of future of software development?

Q. What 'flavor' of the most effective language to learn 'now' would you
recommend? (.NET or some other brand?)


Thanks Clinton

"clintonG" <csgallagher@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:uZbmwTy1FHA.2008@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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>
> This topic is not and was not meant to be about which language per se but
> about which syntax and which grammar has become the defacto standard for
> most languages that are being used at this point in time to develop most
> applications for the most significant endeavor in the history of mankind's
> efforts to involve themselves with a computer science. That is of course
> the Internet manifested in a form useable by humans we know as the web and
> the syntax and grammar that which has been derived from C in this context.
>
> Blame Thompson and Ritchie if you must but there's no denying that the
> legacy of C [1] has become the legacy of the web and this legacy is best
> expressed in its totality in the client and an overwhelming presence on
> the server by Java and C# as well as other languages that are very C-like.
>
> This contention is and has been continually proven by Software Magazine's
> annual surveys. This year -- again as I recall -- the most often used
> languages as cited by survey respondents are Java followed by C#. To be
> honest this confuses me as the classifieds rarely ask for C# when seeking
> .NET developers. The classifieds it seems are almost always seeking VB.NET
> developers. Not to denigrate VB anymore than it seems but I believe this
> phenomena to be a hold over from the past (and current) success of VB
> itself and the monkey-see monkey-do behavioral model present in most
> management processes more so than the understanding of which syntax and
> language offers the most efficient and highest use of one's resources and
> one's willingness and ability to adapt to change to the current paradigm.
>
> Actually, if there would be a single person to look to in this regard of
> the legacy itself it would have to be Brendan Eich the author of
> JavaScript [2] whose decision to reuse the C syntax and grammar has
> changed software development as we know it, as again, it is the phenomena
> of the web that has become the deciding factor and the legacy of C is
> rapidily becoming prevalent. I think Google is making this point perfectly
> clear [3].
>
> So again, I note many languages do not fit this paradigm and many
> languages will continue to be used and new languages will continue to be
> developed. Ruby comes to mind as I find a need to learn this language for
> certain aspirations I hold in the practice of architecture where I was
> formally educated, trained, and where much of my thinking processes have
> been influenced by an immersion into classical thought and philosophy.
>
> Regardless, that does not change the fundamental premise of my contentious
> postulation, that being, in the course of time the VB syntax and grammar
> [4] will continue to be killed softly by this song.
>
> It is interesting to note the wikipedia disclaimer for those recoding the
> history of Visual Basic [3]. That there are contentious and biased points
> of view we all hold is of no question none of which however change the
> facts. I like VB myself but one day I had the "learn three for the price
> of one" epiphany and realized I was compelled to think pragmatically and
> was therefore compelled to adopt the legacy provided to us by men such as
> Thompson,Ritchie and Eich.
>
> That's all there is to it for me as a person who happens to have what some
> may call a deep insight if you will as I am rarely incorrect in my
> prognostications. People that know me over a period of time have told me
> for years I would do much better in the stock market and financial
> management because I have an uncanny ability to see a trend early in the
> curve and call which horse will win the race. But alas, I am a stubborn
> fool.
>
> It is only because I am also a maverick that I have avoided that pursuit
> in favor of my current endeavors which compel me to say "sorry fellas"
> because it really looks like the VB syntax and grammar has seen its heyday
> [5], Microsoft's efforts to retain the loyalty of VB developers not
> withstanding, the VB syntax and grammar is in the process of becoming
> relegated to the annals of history to take its place as second fiddle in
> this symphany of the web where I find myself lucky enough to have found a
> seat in the orchestra which I credit to my willingness to learn, my
> predilection towards change, and my ability to read the *** music which
> the conductor has made clear: This symphany is to be played in the key of
> the legacy of C.
>
> <%= Clinton Gallagher
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> [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C_programming_language
> [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Javascript
> [3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AJAX
> [4] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basic_programming_language
> [5] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visual_BASIC
>
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