Re: Not just computer language

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Actually I respect anyone that can speak or write in more than one language.

Debbie


"Doug Taylor" <Doug.TaylorNTP@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:j28v61dec5bi2psve06eggjvp4p4p8u0r6@xxxxxxxxxx
> On Tue, 26 Apr 2005 21:16:12 +1200, "Stephany Young" <noone@localhost>
> wrote:
>
> >I think that everyone is missing the point here.
> >
> >Regardless of what language you are writing in - if the reader doesn't
> >understand the message then you have wasted your time.
> >
> I also think that native 'English' speakers should cut non native
> 'English' speakers a huge amount of slack. I often have to work in
> French and I know how hard it is to be even reasonably comprehended in
> a language that is not your own.
>
> I do take your point, though, I feel we have a responsibilty to try
> and understand non native English speakers
>
> Doug Taylor
>
> >
> >"Doug Taylor" <Doug.TaylorNTP@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> >news:i53q6115jfsa8s8jjnirs8ok1eo5pgofdg@xxxxxxxxxx
> >> On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 08:37:58 GMT, "Debbie Carter"
> >> <dcarter1955@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>
> >>>Hello Cor,
> >>> Since this is a programming newsgroup I will drop the subject but
> >>>thank you for explaining. I was unaware the English language had
different
> >>>versions. Keep up the good work!
> >>>Debbie
> >> Are trying to start a flame war :-) Even English as spoken in England
> >> has many dialects, some almost impossible to understand to non native
> >> speakers, such as Gorbals Glaswegian English. I have worked with many
> >> people from the Netherlands and they in general speak and write
> >> excellent English.
> >>
> >> Doug Taylor
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>"Cor Ligthert" <notmyfirstname@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> >>>news:OXY%23$TWSFHA.2604@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>> Debbie,
> >>>>
> >>>> I agree however as well disagree with you, but your message is
helpful.
> >>>> My
> >>>> English is based on how I have learned English not American.
> >>>>
> >>>> To check that, I took just one message from Terry Burns. He is from
> >>>> Thames
> >>>> Valley, not far away from Oxford where for us Dutch the best English
is
> >>>> spoken.
> >>>>
> >>>> >Ctrl Alt J will open up the object browser, and you can find all the
> >>>> >classes
> >>>> >in your assembly
> >>>>
> >>>> When I understand your message well, than you would have written
> >>>> something
> >>>> as.
> >>>> Ctrl Alt J opens the object browser and you find than all the classes
in
> >>>> your assembly
> >>>>
> >>>> I have learned to do it in the way as Terry writes. While by
instance,
> >>>> the
> >>>> way you write, looks very much on grammatical Dutch. Maybe you think
> >>>> that
> >>>it
> >>>> is therefore easier for me. No when I write English, I am thinking in
> >>>> English. It can be that I overdo it now and therefore I will keep an
eye
> >>>on
> >>>> it in future and am thankful for your message.
> >>>>
> >>>> The sentence about Dutch was that I skip in Dutch as well many words
> >>>> when
> >>>I
> >>>> quickly write a message. I am busy with the next sentence when the
first
> >>>is
> >>>> not even ready. Than I correct it, however set than the words in the
> >>>> wrong
> >>>> sequence. A message like yours is than good to point me again on
that.
> >>>>
> >>>> However, I wrote first "...that I am skipping in Dutch as well many
> >>>> words
> >>>> when I am writing quickly". Now I changed it, so maybe your message
has
> >>>> success and let me write in a more popular way in this newsgroup.
> >>>>
> >>>> The message concerning Herfried was that I was using more for us both
> >>>known
> >>>> keywords than language. Because Herfried understands those keywords,
has
> >>>it
> >>>> less sense to write it in a way that everybody understands it. Maybe
I
> >>>> unconscious think too much, that because Herfried understands as much
> >>>> languages as I, that the correct grammatical use is less important.
You
> >>>are
> >>>> right when you now want to tell that more people read those messages,
> >>>> but
> >>>> sometimes it gives than in my opinion a too long messages to explain
> >>>> everything and is than for Herfried without any sense.
> >>>>
> >>>> The "when/if" error is something somebody else showed me as well.
That
> >>>> is
> >>>an
> >>>> error hard to overcome. While grammatical in Dutch, it is as well not
> >>>> correct, are we using that often and therefore I probably make that
> >>>> error
> >>>in
> >>>> English as well quiet easy, even if I keep an eye on it (I wrote
first
> >>>> "when"). :-)
> >>>>
> >>>> >I make wrtiting errors often but since this is a newsgroup and not a
> >>>> >document I don't really care.
> >>>>
> >>>> I do not understand what you want to tell me with this last sentence
> >>>> from
> >>>> you. However, the last part is not true. I don't care about it in the
> >>>> same
> >>>> way as if it was a document.
> >>>>
> >>>> :-)
> >>>>
> >>>> Thank you
> >>>>
> >>>> Cor
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
>


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