Re: How are things done where you work?
- From: "Brett" <no@xxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 09:37:22 -0400
Well, since it is software and my boss doesn't write software, I'll have to
bring it to his attention. Actually, I've already done a number of those.
I'm the only one here programming in .NET and has knowledge of OOP. This is
a Coldfusion house. One day I decided to do something in VB.NET to
accomplish an MS Office task. They liked it and I've been able to use
VB.NET to solve quite a few problems here that I'm not sure how they would
have done otherwise.
Brett
"Peter Proost" <pproost@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:uONAhMmSFHA.1232@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Hi I think Cor ment that your boss would see it and that you would say
> it's
> good he noticed it and then you pretend it's very difficult to fix but you
> know it's very easy and nevertheless you get all the credit for fixing it
> :-)
>
> If that's not what Cor ment he'll correct me :-)
>
> Greetz Peter
>
> --
> Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build
> bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce
> bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning.
> "Brett" <no@xxxxxxxx> schreef in bericht
> news:OWhdRHmSFHA.3188@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>> "Cor Ligthert" <notmyfirstname@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:eKZZqylSFHA.1268@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > Brett,
>> >
>> > More in general.
>> >>
>> >> 1.) Is it normal for (technical) management (actually 1 of 2 co
>> >> owners)
>> >> to constantly interrupt developers all day with with questions such
>> >> as:
>> >> "can we look at this",
>> >
>> > Yes
>> >
>> >> "I found this, can we try it now",
>> >
>> > Yes
>> >
>> >> "Can we see what these guys are doing",
>> >
>> > Yes
>> >
>> >> "can we change the color of this just for now"
>> >
>> > Yes
>> >
>> >> and so on?
>> >
>> > Yes
>> >
>> >>
>> >> 2.) Is it normal for developers to bounce around on little tiny
> projects
>> >> all day or stick to one or two large projects and work with their
>> >> team?
>> >>
>> >
>> > Yes
>> >
>> >> We use no type of source control, management won't buy new software,
>> >> there are no standards in our development b/c management won't efforce
>> >> them, we shoot from the hip with planning, developers aren't comp'd
>> >> anything for efforts. Obviously I'm looking for another job but want
> to
>> >> make sure my expectations aren't to high. I believe my current work
>> >> environment is a disaster. I didn't think that when I joined but as
> I've
>> >> improved, I feel now this place will just degrade my skills. I want
>> >> to
>> >> be rewarded for effort and also need to be around developers that have
>> >> much experience, good programming practicies, and can easily leave me
> in
>> >> the dust (better than me in other words). I'm sure there are plenty
>> >> of
>> >> places like that.
>> >>
>> >
>> > Don't be to optimistic there are probably more managers who know
>> > nothing
>> > than there are who are real pro's. A problem can be that the real pro's
>> > have the same managers as you describe.
>> >
>> > Try to find the skills to avoid that.
>> >
>> > One of those I learned as one of the first in a kind of same
>> > environment
>> > as you described. Make a little error in what you make, that is easy to
>> > correct. However it should be seen directly. When it is seen, tell that
> it
>> > is very difficult to change. Don't forget to give compliments until
>> > they
>> > are sick from it and never tell that you did make it express.
>>
>> I'm not sure what you mean here. You are saying to cause a problem on
>> purpose but make it looks like an accident? Then let other people fix
>> the
>> error and give them compliments when they do?
>>
>> >
>> > Although when it is to hard, than try to change and to experience
> yourself
>> > what is the best environment for you. Sometimes are there advantages
>> > working in an environment as you describe where the managers are nulls
> in
>> > your area of skills.
>> >
>> > However, when you are young, than is my advice. Try to move, you learn
> to
>> > slow in such an amateur environment as you now describe.
>> >
>> > Just my thought,
>> >
>> > Cor
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
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