Re: How are things done where you work?

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What do you believe the environment is like at some intense shop like
Microsoft? I imagine they have an infinite supply of tools. No doubt they
use source control and all types of validators. They're the happiest people
when it comes to toys. That aside, how do you believe management is there?
In other words, what/how is day to day life at MS as a developer?

"Peter Proost" <pproost@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:eYVPtUlSFHA.244@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Hi Brett, where I work we have got an it-team of 6:
> 5 programmers and 1 one network admin. One of the programmers is "head" of
> IT, but it's more a title than anything else, about important things we
> always consult each other. So it isn't like somebody want's to buy some
> new
> program and just buys it. We have the privilege that the main management
> trusts us, therefor we haven't realy got a budget but we buy what need. So
> they trust us and we don't abuse it. There also isn't supervising like you
> describe it, ofcourse we try to set dates by what time a project needs to
> be
> finished, but if for example we can't get that deadline nobody gets
> blaimed
> unless it's realy somebody's fault. But I'm very aware that it isn't like
> this in all company's, I've got the adavantage that my company isn't a
> software selling company, so we write software for internal use and for
> our
> distributors only and therefor there isn't to much time pressure. We also
> work on one or two projects at time but mostly one because they're large
> projects but sometimes ofcourse we have to do smaller projects in between.
> We also use our own controls/classes library so all projects use the same
> controls and all projects or programmed in more or less the same way.
> Ofcourse not everything is super here. We also haven't got any form of
> compensation for extra efforts which is a bit a shame because some people
> here do work a lot harder and programm better than others but we all get
> paid the same wage and we are a bit underrespected. There are also some
> other problems but I can't discust them here. But in general I feel happy
> here at work and I'm sure you'll find a better working environment than
> the
> one where you work now. Ofcourse there will always be things that can be
> better or are better at other places but you have to consider the pro's
> and
> con's. But I think you haven't got you're expectations up to high,
> compared
> to my working situation.
>
> Greetz Peter and good luck
>
> --
> Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build
> big
> ger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce
> bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning.
>
> "Brett" <no@xxxxxxxx> schreef in bericht
> news:#9dJz7kSFHA.2136@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> I'd like to know what management and the work environment are like where
> you
>> work. I need something relative to compare my current work environment.
>> Here's a few questions I have:
>>
>> 1.) Is it normal for (technical) management (actually 1 of 2 co owners)
>> to
>> constantly interrupt developers all day with with questions such as:
>> "can we look at this",
>> "I found this, can we try it now",
>> "Can we see what these guys are doing",
>> "can we change the color of this just for now"
>> and so on?
>>
>> 2.) Is it normal for developers to bounce around on little tiny projects
> all
>> day or stick to one or two large projects and work with their team?
>>
>> We use no type of source control, management won't buy new software,
>> there
>> are no standards in our development b/c management won't efforce them, we
>> shoot from the hip with planning, developers aren't comp'd anything for
>> efforts. Obviously I'm looking for another job but want to make sure my
>> expectations aren't to high. I believe my current work environment is a
>> disaster. I didn't think that when I joined but as I've improved, I feel
>> now this place will just degrade my skills. I want to be rewarded for
>> effort and also need to be around developers that have much experience,
> good
>> programming practicies, and can easily leave me in the dust (better than
> me
>> in other words). I'm sure there are plenty of places like that.
>>
>> Comments in general are welcome.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Brett
>>
>>
>
>


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