Re: How are things done where you work?


"Cor Ligthert" <notmyfirstname@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> Brett,
>
> More in general.
>>
>> 1.) Is it normal for (technical) management (actually 1 of 2 co owners)
>> to constantly interrupt developers all day with with questions such as:
>> "can we look at this",
>
> Yes
>
>> "I found this, can we try it now",
>
> Yes
>
>> "Can we see what these guys are doing",
>
> Yes
>
>> "can we change the color of this just for now"
>
> Yes
>
>> and so on?
>
> Yes
>
>>
>> 2.) Is it normal for developers to bounce around on little tiny projects
>> all day or stick to one or two large projects and work with their team?
>>
>
> Yes
>
>> We use no type of source control, management won't buy new software,
>> there are no standards in our development b/c management won't efforce
>> them, we shoot from the hip with planning, developers aren't comp'd
>> anything for efforts. Obviously I'm looking for another job but want to
>> make sure my expectations aren't to high. I believe my current work
>> environment is a disaster. I didn't think that when I joined but as I've
>> improved, I feel now this place will just degrade my skills. I want to
>> be rewarded for effort and also need to be around developers that have
>> much experience, good programming practicies, and can easily leave me in
>> the dust (better than me in other words). I'm sure there are plenty of
>> places like that.
>>
>
> Don't be to optimistic there are probably more managers who know nothing
> than there are who are real pro's. A problem can be that the real pro's
> have the same managers as you describe.
>
> Try to find the skills to avoid that.
>
> One of those I learned as one of the first in a kind of same environment
> as you described. Make a little error in what you make, that is easy to
> correct. However it should be seen directly. When it is seen, tell that it
> is very difficult to change. Don't forget to give compliments until they
> are sick from it and never tell that you did make it express.

I'm not sure what you mean here. You are saying to cause a problem on
purpose but make it looks like an accident? Then let other people fix the
error and give them compliments when they do?

>
> Although when it is to hard, than try to change and to experience yourself
> what is the best environment for you. Sometimes are there advantages
> working in an environment as you describe where the managers are nulls in
> your area of skills.
>
> However, when you are young, than is my advice. Try to move, you learn to
> slow in such an amateur environment as you now describe.
>
> Just my thought,
>
> Cor
>


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