Re: Write Once, Don't Call the Next Day...
From: The Ghost In The Machine (ewill_at_aurigae.athghost7038suus.net)
Date: 06/05/04
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Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2004 00:00:10 GMT
In comp.lang.java.advocacy, asj
<asj@blueboard.com>
wrote
on 3 Jun 2004 18:58:10 -0700
<2bfb3b97.0406031758.3f0b9d79@posting.google.com>:
> Jamal Marley <rastaman@vibration.yeaaa.positive> wrote in message news:<3828202.ZYMN7OlUlJ@news.west.earthlink.net>...
>> Jeff Relf wrote:
>> Go Linux. Go mono. Go c#. Get a steady OS, a steady
>> Object Layer and good solid language.
>
> #1: C-sharp is a Microsoft invention and product, and using it
> automatically means you are helping Microsoft.
C# may indeed be a Microsoft innovation (or maybe not), but
screwdrivers help a lot of people. Should we stop using them
because they were invented by someone?
>
> #2: Mono is a trojan horse that will kill or wound Linux in future.
> Why? Because Microsoft has patents on parts of it, something de Icaza
> pooh poohs but is worrying lots of people.
That is a legitimate concern. Of course, patents are not
specific to C#. I had to withdraw a Perl counter because
GIF was patented, for example.
>
> Believe me, Bill Gates and Ballmer are laughing at all the fools who
> want mono to contaminate Linux, because they know they can pull the
> plug on it anytime in future when and if it suits them (and this time,
> there is no IBM angel to help out like the SCO problem - IBM is firmly
> a Java vendor)
Then C# might simply fork. One part will become C#-MS, which will
serve the commercial subsector (or anyone Microsoft wants it to).
The other part may become C#-FreeOS or something, or perhaps
Gnu.NET. It will complicate things, of course, but Java has, in
a sense, already forked (Java vs. Kaffe vs. Jikes), though it's
not clear many pay much attention to said forking.
And C# might have already forked, as well, though I've not looked
at Gnu.NET.
>
> Listen to what a gnome contributor wrote:
> http://www.gnome.org/~seth/blog/mono
Patents are the issue here, not C# per se. But it's clear that
this is a barbed offer -- and I for one would prefer Python or
PHP or a variant of C++ (I have a refcount template set I
developed that works reasonably well, for example) to C# or Java,
though with Java at least one can try to improve Kaffe, and
gcj has its plusses.
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