Re: Learning C# - Looking for a good, free IDE

On Jul 15, 7:05 pm, Ian Semmel <isemmelNOJ...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
KDawg44 wrote:
On Jul 15, 10:11 am, "Jon Skeet [C# MVP]" <sk...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Jul 15, 2:02 pm, KDawg44 <KDaw...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

  The Express editions of Visual Studio are a free download from Microsft.
Thanks.  That appears to do what I need.  Is there any kind of eclipse
plug in?
There *is* an Eclipse plugin, but the last time I looked it was awful.
You'll have a much better experience with the Express edition of VS.

Jon

Thanks.  I noticed that the Eclipse plug-in doesn't have a listed
update since 2004.  I have installed C# express and will play with
this.

Thanks to everyone for their suggestions.

Which is one of the great bugbears of OpenSource.

People create a great project until reality kicks in and they go out and get a real job.

There are hundreds of plugins for eclipse, but unfortunately, many of them are tied to a particular version. Try juggling them all
around to get something that is compatible (look at Spring, Hibernate, JBoss, Matisse et al) and you will see what I mean. No one
appears to be responsible for the overall system.

There have been improvements in the IDEs for linux and java, but there is absolutely nothing out there that comes close to VS.

You really don't seem to know that much about the "open source way of
life", and could use a little thinking before flaming something you
don't know/don't understand.

"People create a great project until reality kicks in and they go out
and get a real job"
- Some people really like to code and see it as more than work, and
code for fun and knowledge, so having a real job, as I expect most of
us have, doesn't interfere in these "great projects" you babble about.

"There are hundreds of plugins for eclipse, but unfortunately, many of
them are tied to a particular version. Try juggling them all around to
get something that is compatible"
- Did you ever even OPEN Eclipse IDE, doesn't seem...

"look at Spring, Hibernate, JBoss, Matisse"
- Weren't you talking about Eclipse's plugins? Spring is a framework,
Hibernate is a very good object-relational framework that even has a
(also very good) port for .NET called NHibernate, JBoss is an
application server, so, none of these examples is valid in the
context.

"No one appears to be responsible for the overall system."
- No one is, because it's source is open and anyone with the will and
the skill is REALLY welcome to try and make it better.

"There have been improvements in the IDEs for linux and java, but
there is absolutely nothing out there that comes close to VS"
- You love VS and you're bound to it, that's great, VS is a great
development platform, but isn't the only, there are other great
platforms available, such as Eclipse, NetBeans, SharpDevelop...

Don't take me the wrong way, please, I'm not trying to flame anyone,
or to start a "this-is-better-than-that-because-I-use-it-and-I-like-
it" thread here, but I've been introduced to linux almost a decade ago
and have been using it as much as Windows in the last 2 years, and
like both, it's just that you paint an untruthful and biased image of
open source software.

Sorry for any spelling errors or non-sense gibberish, I'm quite sleepy
now.

And about the free IDE, really, download Visual C# Express, it's a
great free learning tool!
.

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