Re: C# and certification



Well said.

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"Bruce Wood" <brucewood@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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> GrahamJWalsh@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
>
> > Has anybody any advice on this matter? e.g. Dont do it, the
> > certification isn't worth squat! or perhaps "definitely do it, it
> > opens up so many doors".
>
> I think that you very much have to understand the market in which your
> searching for jobs. Here's a contrast for you.
>
> I once taught a course on C at a local university. One my students was
> a 50-something guy who had done all sorts of tech work throughout
> Europe and the U.S., and had moved to Vancouver. He told me that
> Vancouver was the weirdest job market he'd ever encountered. "In
> Europe," he said, "I applied for a job managing an Oracle database for
> a large company. I told them that I had done lots of database work, but
> never Oracle, and I'd never held the DBA title (although I'd done the
> work). 'No problem,' they told me. 'We'll send you on all the courses.
> We want you because you come with great references for being an
> intelligent, stable worker.' Here in Vancouver," he continued, "I go to
> an interview and they want to know not only whether I know Oracle, but
> Oracle version such-and-so, as applied to their particular business."
>
> He was right. Here in Vancouver, the first interview you get is often
> with HR, and they just have a list of products and version numbers.
> They weed out all of the people who can't say in a convincing tone that
> yes, they know all about that version of that product / language. The
> height of this sort of stupidity was a place I worked at years ago
> which advertised for a new programmer. All of us in Engineering had a
> good laugh at the job requirements, including "two years' experience
> with Sun's NSE" which had been out of beta for six months. I'm sure
> that there are places here advertising for people with "minimum two
> years' experience with .NET 2.0."
>
> If you're looking for work in a city / country that places emphasis on
> character and skill, forget the certs. If you're looking for work in a
> place like Vancouver, the silly letters after your name will get you
> past the first interview to the people who actually know what's going
> on. Know your market, and plan accordingly.
>


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