Re: C# & VB-> General Questions

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From: Jon Skeet [C# MVP] (skeet_at_pobox.com)
Date: 10/26/04 

Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 09:11:35 +0100

Tom Dacon <tdacon@community.nospam> wrote:
> Goodness - ruffled a C# feather, didn't I? I certainly didn't intend any
> offense (I was, after all, speaking to the OP, not to you), but I'm a
> plain-spoken man and I calls 'em as I sees 'em, although perhaps I should
> have sprinkled some smileys around my comments to put across the notion that
> I was aiming at irreverence rather than vitriol. In any case, I don't agree
> with your responses, although I respect your right to hold them.
>
> As to edit-and-continue, surely you do deep-path inspection of your
> code during testing, don't you? Isn't it a pain when you're deep in a
> debugging session, hit a show-stopper, and have to exit the session,
> fix the bug, and then reconstruct the whole testing scenario back
> down to that point again before you can continue? Sometimes you can
> save the situation right there and proceed. Saves a lot of time. Of
> course it doesn't always work that way, but every once in a while you
> gain from its presence. I missed hearing that the C# team has decided
> to do it - thanks for correcting me - but I'm delighted to hear it.
> Try it some time, when you get it in a version of VS.Net that
> supports it. Might change your mind.

<snip>

I do find it amazing that pretty much every pro-E&C person I've heard
talking about it assumes that those who dislike it haven't used it, and
therefore pretty much don't know what they're talking about. I find
that an arrogant attitude, myself.

I have used it, and I believe it leads to bad habits - it leads to only
thinking about the quality of code when you're running the code,
instead of beforehand.

I'll probably find it useful when viewing a UI, so that I can change a
few behavioural things to see what feels best as a user, but as a way
of debugging I think it leaves a lot to be desired. 

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