Re: VS 2005 SP1??? where?

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We would like to move our group's main project, 300K+ lines of C++/MFC code
to VS 2005. I migrated our product to test VS 2005 and the instability made
it unuseable.

We'd love to upgrade for the many excellent features but there's no way we
can move to an IDE that literally crashes several times a day and often
becomes posessed by Intellisense hogging 100% CPU for several minutes at a
time.

We're sitting around waiting for SP1 due out Q3 of 2006 (just a few days) as
promised by Microsoft at
msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/support/servicing/sp1_vs05/default.aspx.

Is SP1 coming or not? Customers (including us) are sitting around waiting to
test SP1 to see if it corrects stability and other issues so that they can
migrate to VS 2005.

Can someone please just give us a definitive answer on this? The future of
our products are at stake.
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Thanks,

Dwight


"Frans Bouma [C# MVP]" wrote:

Rob R. Ainscough wrote:

After some more digging and phone calls, it appears you are correct,
no SP1 for VS 2005 this year and the SP1 for .NET 2.0 is due out
about the same time Vista goes final.

Tis unfortunate, VS 2005 is feature packed with potential -- too bad
the features have some pretty significant problems that aren't going
to be fixed any time soon.

I'm sure I'm not doing the same kind of development as alot of people
here (more library work, less forms oriented work), but I have to say
that it's fairly stable for me, even with large projects. But as said,
I don't spend most of my time writing GUI-tiers and when I have to
write GUI code, I have to agree with you that it often takes more time
than when you've to write the same amount of code in library classes.

So could you elaborate a bit what makes it impossible to use VS.NET
2005 for you?

And so begins the un-migration. Maybe I'll have a job after this or
not, who knows, but it sure is the last time I put "faith" in
Microsoft.

As your job is on the line, you could ask Microsoft to fix the
problems you have for you. I'm not sure if your employer is a large
company, but as much as I hate it, big companies have a huge impact on
what MS does. So if your employer wants to get things fixed / changed
so they can proceed and won't switch to java instead, I'd give it a
shot and ask MS to help you with the migration.

If you want I could mail some people inside MS and ask them if they
want to escalate this thread internally? It won't change things in the
very short term, but it might give you more confidence in having a job
later in the year.

Frans


Rob.

"Frans Bouma [C# MVP]" <perseus.usenetNOSPAM@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in
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Rob R. Ainscough wrote:

Ok thanks -- do you have any sources to confirm no SP1 til Q1'07 or
never? We're just waiting for my "go" or "no go" decision on
whether >> we migrate all our tools/products to a different
development platform >> -- going with VS 2005 is beyond embarrassing
for me at this point.

I have no exact date for you. Only that SP1 for .NET 2.0 is
scheduled for Q1 2007 and that there's no SP1 in sight for 2005, as
it first has to get into beta.

Frans


Rob.


"Frans Bouma [C# MVP]" <perseus.usenetNOSPAM@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in
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Rob R. Ainscough wrote:

Trying to get more info on this, anyone??



http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/support/servicing/sp1_vs05/default.a
spx >> > >
Has anyone seen "a more detailed schedule of external interim
milestones...will be posted when it has been finalized."?

Seeing as there is only 19 days left in Q3 this looks sorta
like it >> >> isn't going to happen...

It's not even in beta, so I'd say: forget it. My guess it's not
going to be released before Q1 2007, IF ever.


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