Re: NetAdvantage code samples?

Obviously, you did not download this package and take a look for yourself.
If you had, you would have noted that is not a collection of code
illustrating the use of the NetAdvantage components. It is a .Net Web app.

It does not offer simple examples of each component. It does not offer
examples of the Winforms components at all. It does not show example code
in VB.Net as well as C#.

I say again....you lied.


"Stephany Young" <noone@localhost> wrote in message
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You are right. I did lie. It was only 3 mouse clicks:

http://www.infragistics.com/

Click the 'Downloads' hyperlink

Click the 'Reference Applications' hyperlink in the third column of the
table

Click the 'Download' button on the same row as 'Infragistics Styling
Samples for CLR 2.0'



"Jim Hubbard" <reply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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You lie.


"Stephany Young" <noone@localhost> wrote in message
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A simple yes or no would have sufficed.

I just visited their web site and found the samples with 4 mouse clicks.


"Jim Hubbard" <reply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Yeah.....I dropped a couple of questions on their newsgroup
servers.......but I'm not holding my breath.

It seems unethical to charge someone about $700 for the tools then
another $800-$1500 for training on how to use them. But, it looks like
exactly what they do. Had I known there were no code source examples
included, I never would have bought NetAdvantage to begin with.

Unfortunately, I believe that the lack actual code samples is meant to
"entice" people into spending more money to be trained in the use of
the tools. Why else would you not show simple examples (in code) of
how each tool is used?

It would seem to me that happy customers (ones that can buy and
immediately use) your toolset would be an asset and may send more
customers your way. But, if you don't provide code samples, and the
customer has to pay out the nose to learn how to use what s/he has just
bought......well that's just plain stupid - not to mention bad
marketing.

Admittedly, I am new to .Net. I have resisted it for quite some time.
It is not as RAD as VB6 was. The toolsets given to use by 3rd party
vendors are not as user-friendly nor do they allow the customization of
the UI as much as the toolsets for VB6 did.

Microsoft has screwed us with this .Net crap. RAD is DEAD. Innovation
in software (which mostly came from school kids and part-time
programmers) is all but gone. (How many new and exciting .Net apps
have you seen lately?)

Fewer college entrants are taking classes to become programmers year
after year. Soon, outsourcing will be the only option for many
companies.

Why? IMHO, programming used to be fun. .Net is not. Part-time
programmers came up with new apps for fun and profit continually in VB.
Not with .Net.

Anyway....I don't want this to become an "I hate .Net" rant. I do, but
that is beside the point.

I have never purchased a suite of tools for more than $100 that did not
come with source code examples that showed the components in use.

I am surprised that a company like Infragistics would pull such a scam
on it's customers.

Of course, the source code for examples of all of the controls could be
here somewhere. But, if it was, wouldn't there be a link to it in the
NetAdvantage start menu folders....or even in the Help files that
accompany the tools?

This is why people hate software and PCs. Perfectly brilliant people
write massively powerful things that nobody can use quickly and simply.

Great job guys!



"Stephany Young" <noone@localhost> wrote in message
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Have you made enquiries of Infragistics?


"Jim Hubbard" <reply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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I purchased Infragistics NetAdvantage 2006 Volume 1 CLR 2.0 and was
mildly shocked to see no sample apps included that showed the
code/settings required to replicate the UI components shown in the
screenshot galleries on their website.

Did I miss something?













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