Re: Java programmer lured back by .Net (Questions)

Beatrice Rutger <brutger@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Swing (or SWT for that matter) is simply not ready for prime tiume
> despite the hype. Don't get me started on JNLP either ...
> Basically the Java lobby is spending all its efforts on the server side
> (which is a good thing), but losing the battle on the desktop.

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.

> Java has been around for years, and yet still a novice can spot a Java
> app running on Windows a mile away. Talking about Eclipse - have you
> seen how it suddenly seems to go to sleep on you (and it uses SWT) - I
> don't remeber any windows program behaving like that.

Actually, Eclipse seems to have a lot fewer pauses like that than
Visual Studio .NET 2003. It's generally more responsive (as well as
being *much* more useful, but that's a different matter).

Swing certainly takes a while to get to grips with in terms of it being
a different way of looking at UIs, and I'll readily admit I'm not
usually a UI programmer anyway - but in general I prefer the Swing way
of working to the Windows Forms one. (As I said before, in layout terms
Java is miles ahead - at the moment. I expect Avalon to change that.)

Yes, Swing can be frustrating - but so can Windows Forms. I suspect
you'll find just as many quirks and annoyances in the long run.

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