Re: .NET dead in 2 Years ?
From: John Spiegel (jspiegel_at_YETANOTHERSPAMHATERc-comld.com)
Date: 10/18/04
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Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 15:05:28 -0600
Hi Didi,
If you're like most programmers I've run into, you aren't very familiar with
Visual FoxPro. Maybe heard of it. Maybe worked with someone who used the
"pre-Visual" DOS product in '91. It's been on its "last release" since
Microsoft bought it around 1990 (or so). And by "last release" I mean there
have only been (depending on how you look at it) nine new versions since
with a tenth soon to release. The point? Even though VFP (a shame not many
really appreciate it) has not had much market share to speak of, it's
outlived rumors of its death for nearly 15 years...and counting. If MS
didn't kill off a product with the relatively small user base VFP has, I
have a very hard time believing it's going to come around in '06 and tell us
that the last six years have just been a dream.
If your (pointy-haired?) management is going to put that much weight into a
competitor's promotional piece, perhaps you should send yourself an email
from an "unbiased third party" extolling the virtues of .NET and how
Microsoft chairman, Bill Gates, was quoted as saying, "This is our platform
vision through this century and into next." <g>
- John
"Didi H." <didi@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:AITcd.1$%g2.0@fe57.usenetserver.com...
> Hi,
> in our company we are currently thinking about to do new project in .NET.
> I like this idea but there is another group that has a totally different
> opinon.
> Yesterday I got the following email, and I am wondering if it is true what
> is said in this mail.
> Here is the mail it is very long:
>
> CTO Corner
> Where is the Industry going?
> What technologies and platforms make sense for GUPTA and its customers to
> grow their business? Is Longhorn the answer to all IT challenges? What
about
> the coexistence of Windows and Linux in the future? These questions need
> answers and I want to share some thoughts about our direction.
>
> What is Longhorn?
> Longhorn is Microsoft's next Desktop operating system that will offer the
> next generation of application development. Longhorn will allow
developers
> to create rich-client applications that reside on a central server and,
via
> HTTP (web browser) users will be able to access these applications and,
the
> applications will make calls to the new operating system to render
graphics
> and other services. The user experiences will be very much like a
> client/server application offering much of the rich features and immediate
> feedback such as population of drop-down combo boxes, populated fields,
etc.
> Developers will only have to maintain one single version of the
application,
> which will reduce much of the time and frustration of deploying
> client/server applications.
>
> What about the delays in Longhorn?
> Because Microsoft tightly integrates their development tools and other
> supporting products with the operating system the delay of Longhorn has
far
> reaching implications. The delay of Longhorn, from 2004 to 2006 not only
> affects Microsoft products, but also affects independent software vendors
> like GUPTA.
>
> What does it mean to GUPTA?
> As an independent provider of a RAD development tool and embedded database
> engine, we must look at the broader market. Linux is quickly becoming a
> contender for the desktop space and, in fact, many believe it may offer
> better support for Windows applications in the near and long term than
> Microsoft. It is very important for everyone to understand that Longhorn
> will not support most of today's applications, even many of the .NET
> applications written today.
>
> There is serious doubt about Microsoft's ability to deliver Longhorn even
by
> 2006 and even more concern about the financial implications to business as
> they are forced to rewrite most Microsoft based applications. Team
> Developer has a long history of protecting its developers from having to
> rewrite entire applications every time the underlying operating system or
> technology changes. This is why it's important for GUPTA to fully
> understand the Longhorn release and, determine how GUPTA can best ensure
> developers will be minimally impacted. Anyone serious about this topic
> should read the following links.
>
> http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/04_16/b3879001_mz001.htm
>
> http://www.informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=19502405
>
> http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1589204,00.asp
>
> http://channelzone.ziffdavis.com/article2/0,1759,1589870,00.asp
>
> http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,,1586641,00.asp
>
> Where is GUPTA heading?
> Some customers have asked why we are developing a Linux product rather
than
> a .NET product? The answer is very simple - .NET as we know it today has
a
> life span of two years and it is hardly worth investing in technology that
> is going to be deprecated or significantly changed.
>
> On the other hand, there is a lot of momentum on the Linux platform. A
> number of governments, corporations and SME's are either implementing or
> evaluating the use of Linux as a desktop and vendors like Novell/SUSE and
> Red Hat are providing some very compelling Linux desktop distributions.
> This in conjunction with a number of other projects such as WINE
> http://www.winehq.com/, MONO http://www.go-mono.com/mono-roadmap.html and
> the work being done by the Desktop Linux Consortium XUL project
> (http://news.com.com/2100-1032_3-5201325.html) mean that not far off in
the
> future there will be a .NET framework and Longhorn equivalent on Linux.
> This creates a huge opportunity for GUPTA to become a major player in the
> cross-platform market allowing developers to create Microsoft Windows and
> Linux applications using a single source code line.
>
> What does it mean to GUPTA customers?
> In a word - Opportunity! Can you imagine writing a Team Developer Linux
> application with just three or four developers and delivering the
> application in just four or five months versus a team of 10 Java
programmers
> delivering an application is 18 months if at all. This is not rhetoric,
it
> is fact.
>
> What's more, the Linux market is a green field for ISVs, VARS and software
> houses. Business applications are the final link needed to make the Linux
> desktop a reality. For those who have stayed with GUPTA products, they
will
> be able to take applications they have invested many man years in
> development and quickly offer a Linux version by simply taking their
source
> code files and recompiling in Team Developer for Linux. This is a huge
> opportunity for economic growth in 2005 and 2006.
>
> Additionally, as the MONO project progresses and Microsoft clarifies the
> feature set for Longhorn, GUPTA will be in place to provide a version of
> Team Developer that will generate MSIL code that can be run on both
Longhorn
> and Linux taking advantage of both platforms. As we monitor the Desktop
> Linux Consortiums XUL project, we will see how it mirrors the features of
> Longhorn and, determine how best to take advantage of this new technology
as
> well.
>
>
>
>
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