Re: The pros and cons of .NET

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From: Cor Ligthert (notmyfirstname_at_planet.nl)
Date: 09/27/04


Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 10:38:21 +0200


>> I wrote "there is no runtimer needed with Net",

Again the Jon Skeet style, who quotes constructivly text of others where in
he delete main parts to bring that text in a complete different context..

>
> No, you wrote:
>
> "there is no runtimer needed with dotNet programs"
>
> There's a *huge* difference between those statements.
>
> If I compile a small bit of C#, I can end up with a .NET program -
> which requires a runtime (part of the framework).

I do not see the slightest difference Jon, what is the huge difference, I
hope that you understand that when I write Net, that I mean with that the
framework.

>
> While you're demanding apologies from Nick and asking him to prove what
> people have said, you'd do well to quote exactly where *anyone* has
> said that .NET is a runtime and nothing else. No-one has stated that as
> far as I've seen, however many times you've claimed they have.
>
>> While that is placed related
>> to the text from Tim's page "Against: Large runtime needed"
>>
>> When the Net is installed there is no need to download a runtimer.
>
> Any the point, of course, is that most people don't have .NET installed
> - so they have to download the runtime (as part of the framwork).

Can you proof that, do you have figures and than in the US, in the EC and
worldwide and of course in relation too the installed computers where it is
possible to install the framework. (I understand in this thread that your
parents are your measurement unit that you use now)

>
> There's no point in demanding that people find you a link saying that
> .NET is nothing but a runtime, as no-one's claimed that in the first
> place.
>
Just read this two parts of messages in this thread bellow, reading it in
this thread is to difficult it seems for you.

http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=O4qpcHWoEHA.1308%40TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl

http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=T_05d.110056%24D%25.103044%40attbi_s51

> You, however, *did* claim that no runtime is needed with .NET programs
> - a false statement. If you'd said that no runtime was needed in
> addition to the framework itself, no-one would have disagreed with you.
> It may well be that that's what you *meant* to say, but it's not what
> you *did* say.

Read this what is written me much earlier that Nick came in

http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=e1PW38WoEHA.1644%40tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl

And where you started after that the tone of your messages, however you
forgot that probably again..

In addition I surely did not write it completly clear the first time,
however this was a message to Tim and written in that context, however again
directly answered by Jon Skeet while I have not seen him answering much
other questions the last months than about multithreading.

For me, you obvious did not look at the page from Tim and only took the one
line from me and started again to shout that I am stupid.

As I said much times before, you cannot give me a lesson about this.
Moreover, assuming that I and many others do not know what is JIT or what is
the CLR is really an affront.

So I am now really curious for your answer, however do as many times not
expect it or a message completly beside this with some new by you made facts
as I have often seen by you.

Although that I find it really a waste of time, I could maybe helped better
some people in that time. However I cannot let those every time again thrown
accusings by you open.

Cor



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